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lol people saying Witcher 3 is indie. It's AAA. CDred also owns and runs GOG.



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Nuvendil said:
Lawlight said:

Those can still be indie as crowdfunded games has no obligation towards the people who donate. That's why they can decide to not release the game and just spend the money as they please.

Actually, the launching of a crowdfunding campaign is an act that constitutes a legally binding contract in most cases, in accordance with the Terms of Use of the platform.  Kickstarter is a good example.

Also, from a legal perspective, if a project entices people to send money to them for a project that they have no intentions of putting the money towards, that's textbook fraud, an illegal act.  

That is absolutely not true. Kickstarter even says that for refunds the pledger has to deal with the project owner.

It's only recently that people have started suing failed kickstarters and they're bring held accountable. But plenty of people took the money and left.

Example of failed crowdfunding projects:

https://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/biggest-kickstarter-and-indiegogo-scams/



SegataSanshiro said:
lol people saying Witcher 3 is indie. It's AAA. CDred also owns and runs GOG.

So indies cant be AAA games?



jason1637 said:
SegataSanshiro said:
lol people saying Witcher 3 is indie. It's AAA. CDred also owns and runs GOG.

So indies cant be AAA games?

No.



Indie games can also have a big budget aswell. Alot of people think Indy they think cheap.



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SegataSanshiro said:
jason1637 said:

So indies cant be AAA games?

No.

Why cant a game have a big budget but still be developed and published by an independent studio?



Lawlight said:
Nuvendil said:

Actually, the launching of a crowdfunding campaign is an act that constitutes a legally binding contract in most cases, in accordance with the Terms of Use of the platform.  Kickstarter is a good example.

Also, from a legal perspective, if a project entices people to send money to them for a project that they have no intentions of putting the money towards, that's textbook fraud, an illegal act.  

That is absolutely not true. Kickstarter even says that for refunds the pledger has to deal with the project owner.

It's only recently that people have started suing failed kickstarters and they're bring held accountable. But plenty of people took the money and left.

Example of failed crowdfunding projects:

https://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/biggest-kickstarter-and-indiegogo-scams/

It's not a binding act with KS, it is between Creators and Backers, as explained in Kickstarter's terms of service.  Kickstarter is not a party to the agreement but a backer or backers can hold a creator accountable in a court of law if they fraudulently enticed backers to support them.  Obviously the offended party in an agreement has to initiate the process, the law - either penal or civil - is not administered by all seeing gods.

Which is no different than if a company lies to secure an investment from a venture capitalist.  It's illegal, but the process of bringing the offending parties to justice still has to be initiated by an offended member or an observer.

So no, you are incorrect, the project creators are liable and are bound by law to fulfill their obligations to the satisfaction of the backers.



jason1637 said:
SegataSanshiro said:

No.

Why cant a game have a big budget but still be developed and published by an independent studio?

Indies are lower budget and smaller & independent studios.  You may as well call Valve an indie.



SegataSanshiro said:
jason1637 said:

Why cant a game have a big budget but still be developed and published by an independent studio?

Indies are lower budget and smaller & independent studios.  You may as well call Valve an indie.

Why does it have to be low budget? If a game is made by an independent studio it's an indie game as long as they own the IP imo. A game for rocket league has blown up and made lots of money which is now being used to develop new content for the game instead of making a sequel. So it has a large budget now but it's still an indepedent  studios game and IP. By you're definition it won't be an indie anymore.



Indies are their own publisher, therefore it is often believed they will follow their own vision on a game that isnt compromised by an outside publisher, budget capacity has no bearing