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Forums - Politics - Illinois sweetened beverage tax goes into effect July 1st 2017-moved to the 12th now

shikamaru317 said:
I don't believe in government regulation on this level. If people want to be unhealthy that's their choice, the government shouldn't be sticking their noses where it doesn't belong, trying to force people to be healthy.

These ARE habits that you take as a child, though, wouldn't it be fair to deincentivise families from preparing their children to an unhealthy life?



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SanAndreasX said:
JWeinCom said:
I'm tentatively ok with this, depending on where the money goes. If it goes towards things like nutrition education for children, subsidies for healthful food, etc, I'm ok with it.

It won't, it never does. Goes straight into the pockets of politicians, or to cover shortfalls in other areas of government that were mismanaged. Same as red light cameras.

Enough with these petty cash grabs.

There has never been a moment where a remotely significant (>0.1%, let's say, so 3.8 billion$ per year) portion of american tax funds have gone to politicians, legally or not.

What concerns mismanagment, do you think the problem is solved by NOT covering the shortfalls? 



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TheLegendaryWolf said:
Turkish said:
-Fast food tax, less fast food joints
-Sugar tax
-Fight the food industry
-ban fast food/snack commercials, promote alternatives

=healthier people

= less jobs 

Burger flippers and retail workers probably aren't where you wnat your population to work, anyways. Promote education. Make people usefull, instead of putting them into positions where they do more harm then good to society.



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spurgeonryan said:
Teeqoz said:

People can just drink water...

Tell that to the people in Flint, Michigan.

Is Flint Michigan in Cook County?



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palou said:
shikamaru317 said:
I don't believe in government regulation on this level. If people want to be unhealthy that's their choice, the government shouldn't be sticking their noses where it doesn't belong, trying to force people to be healthy.

These ARE habits that you take as a child, though, wouldn't it be fair to deincentivise families from preparing their children to an unhealthy life?

Where is the line?  The internet?  Video-games?  Red meat?  Potatoes?  Should the government simply apply a tax on anything that isn't good for you?

Local taxes are about money, anyway.  They don't care if they're hurting local jobs and retailers are long as more tax revenue is being generated.  Not only will surrounding areas see an increase in soda sales, they'll see an increase grocery sales, period, as people with cars abandon local shops.  Of course, those without cars--mostly the poor--will simply be the ones paying much of the tax.



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palou said:
TheLegendaryWolf said:

= less jobs 

Burger flippers and retail workers probably aren't where you wnat your population to work, anyways. Promote education. Make people usefull, instead of putting them into positions where they do more harm then good to society.

You do realize a sizable portion of fast food employees are college students right?



palou said:

There has never been a moment where a remotely significant (>0.1%, let's say, so 3.8 billion$ per year) portion of american tax funds have gone to politicians, legally or not.

What concerns mismanagment, do you think the problem is solved by NOT covering the shortfalls? 

When my state and local governments can't explain how a government department, such as transportation, somehow misplaced half a billion dollars, don't even talk to me about increasing my taxes.



pokoko said:

Local taxes are about money, anyway. 

Unlike other taxes, which have nothing to do with money at all.



Teeqoz said:
pokoko said:

Local taxes are about money, anyway. 

Unlike other taxes, which have nothing to do with money at all.

Did I say that?  I don't see where I said that.



pokoko said:
Teeqoz said:

Unlike other taxes, which have nothing to do with money at all.

Did I say that?  I don't see where I said that.

You didn't say that, I just think it's silly to point out that local taxes are about money. Or any taxes for that matter. Of course they are.