I see, too bad... but you can try to put the HDD on a case, plug with USB on a PC and restore the data, reinstall the drive on the PS4 and them make a backup of your saves.

They most certainly do not feel or look like 9th gen games. If anything, they are the first genuine 8th gen games, some of the first games to really tap into the generation's power. But "9th gen"? Heck no, that's ridiculous.

MGSV look amazing

Yeah, it's because we've played every thing 2D and 3D up to this point and there is almost no way to suprise us anymore. We've seen and done it all. It's a bummer but that's how is. Nothing will excite you like the first time you played your first 2D and 3D video game. It's just not possible.

VR is the only thing that can do that now. I haven't tried it yet though because I'm waiting for it to mature.

The summer makes it worse, it's really cutting down on my game time. After a 75km bike ride and playing basketball in the pool, by the time I get to play a game I can't keep my eyes open. I wanted to continue Farpoint last night, but did some VR races in DC first and ran out of steam. Any long game will have to wait until October/November again.

Regular drugs are cheaper, less wasteful as well. Never had a back log problem with drugs :) Playing Age of empires with friends on a crappy 12" monitor while eating heated soup from a can. While stoned it felt like fine dining while playing the greatest game ever in IMAX dome. Definitely less costly. Slept much better afterwards too.

Why wait and deny you the wonders of improvement. It's already magical, surprises all the time. If you had waited with 3D games until HZD and Uncharted 4, would everything before that still impress you? Enjoy the early stages now, and get amazed again by the jumps in progress while it matures.

I've been playing since Atari 2600. I was blown away as a little kid playing those games because they were my first experiences. Pac-Man blew my mind. Then when I was like 6, my mom got me an NES and again, mind fuckin' blown. Sega CD was crazy because we controlled REAL ACTORS. It was like being in a movie! When OOT dropped, the same thing happened. Making that leap from 2D sprites to something like that was really life changing. 

Ever since then, it's been nothing but evolution. We had a brief reprieve with Wii Sport and motion controls, but that buzz was short lived. Everything else is just tiny improvments on an old formula. It just seems like the same old, same old. 

I felt like that kid again while playing Rez Infinite on PSVR, same with plenty other experiences and games like Alumette and Wayward sky. It will be a while until VR becomes merely evolution. Atm it's like the early games era in fast forward. From an akward controlling 3 hour adventure Robinson: The Journey to full blown Skyrim in a year. Robinson was magical 5 months ago, it's already outdated now. So far I'm enjoying the rollercoaster ride, yet I understand it's kinda pricy to jump aboard this early, I've bought more VR games already than non VR games in the last 2 years. Luckily they're not full price.

havent played horizon yet but I played UC4 while switching back and forth between that and Xenoblade chronicles X so it hasn't really spoiled me one bit

Don't worry, Skyrim VR will be full price... Next year might be a bit soon for gen 2. Gen 2 should have eye tracking with a foveated rendering solution to increase perceived detail while rendering less.

There's a company already working on the end stage of VR human eye resolution VR.
https://uploadvr.com/varjo-70x-resolution-human-eye/
They use a high res screen overlay in the center of your vision to simulate perfect detail. The challenge is to move the screen or the projection around so it stays locked with your fovea. The whole system renders less pixels than for a single 4K monitor while appearing to render the entire VR world at 20/20 vision. Once eye tracking becomes good enough VR will quickly surpass normal screen fidelity. Throwing bigger screens at it alone is not the solution.