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LudicrousSpeed said:
DonFerrari said:

I see... so 40% better now when releasing 1 year latter is more monstruous than 40% 4 years ago releasing at the same time... and if by having a update in 3 years make something not monstruous then no PC could be a monster at the time.

If the only thing that mattered in terms of power is teraflops, then sure, I guess you would potentially maybe be on to something. Luckily though, it's not, and you aren't. I'm not even going to bother trying to decipher that last part, sorry.

SWORDF1SH said:

O dear! Papa Phil has really done a number on you lol. We'll leave it there 😀!!!

We probably should, for your health.

Yes if only games mattered right? And the games showed on PS4 vs X1 reveal had a more proeminent difference than the games on X1X vs PS4Pro.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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LudicrousSpeed said:
DonFerrari said:

I see... so 40% better now when releasing 1 year latter is more monstruous than 40% 4 years ago releasing at the same time... and if by having a update in 3 years make something not monstruous then no PC could be a monster at the time.

If the only thing that mattered in terms of power is teraflops, then sure, I guess you would potentially maybe be on to something. Luckily though, it's not, and you aren't. I'm not even going to bother trying to decipher that last part, sorry.


 

 

The PS4s bandwidth was also considerably higher, if you're referring to that part. 

 

AC Origins Checkerboarded 30 fps, Destiny 2 30 fps 4K support unknown atm. It's ok, stick to your "monster" but don't question others for ridiculing you about it.



DonFerrari said:

Yes if only games mattered right? And the games showed on PS4 vs X1 reveal had a more proeminent difference than the games on X1X vs PS4Pro.

Games do matter. As well as UI, controller, and network. That's why I own over 100 games on Xbone and maybe 1/5th of that on PS4. That's also why I'd be more excited about an Xbox mid gen refresh than the half assed refresh Sony gave us.

What games were even shown during the PS4 reveal?  Fucking Killzone and Knack? lol. This is hilarious. It's ok, man. The X is not even going to outsell the Xbone S, let alone your PS4. There is no need for such nonsense.



LudicrousSpeed said:
DonFerrari said:

I see... so 40% better now when releasing 1 year latter is more monstruous than 40% 4 years ago releasing at the same time... and if by having a update in 3 years make something not monstruous then no PC could be a monster at the time.

If the only thing that mattered in terms of power is teraflops, then sure, I guess you would potentially maybe be on to something. Luckily though, it's not, and you aren't. I'm not even going to bother trying to decipher that last part, sorry.

 

SWORDF1SH said:

O dear! Papa Phil has really done a number on you lol. We'll leave it there 😀!!!

We probably should, for your health.

You should read my post history about Xbox One X and guess what, I speak favourable about it. I'm not the one bursting blood vessels on the front line of Spencer Defence Force.

I'll say it again and echoe what I've said in other threads, Xbox One X is a very capable console with a great price tag. It is a more capable 4k machine than the Pro but it's not a monster. "It's a monster" is just PR talk that you've got caught up in but I think being a MS apologist has clouded your judgement and anybody whose opinion doesn't align with you must be a Xbox hater, right?

Look you can continue calling it a monster I find it funny more than anything. 😀😂😂😂😀



I'm trying to find where I called you any sort of hater of any kind let alone Xbox in my previous posts here and uh.. nope, don't see it. Not the first time you've been wrong ITT, probably won't be the last.

Sorry not sorry.



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LudicrousSpeed said:
I'm trying to find where I called you any sort of hater of any kind let alone Xbox in my previous posts here and uh.. nope, don't see it. Not the first time you've been wrong ITT, probably won't be the last.

Sorry not sorry.

Are you one of these guys that need it explained?

"Sorry the most powerful console ever has your jimmies so rustled" 

What were you insinuating? For some reason you decided to say this because I'm not falling for the "it's a monster" PR. You felt the need to lash out and make it sound like I'm hating on the Xbox One X because it will be the most powerful console. Now it's dawned on you that I haven't been hating on Xbox One X you are pretty much screwed. Hence why you didn't quote my last reply. You had no response to it other than play innocent. 




LudicrousSpeed said:
DonFerrari said:

Yes if only games mattered right? And the games showed on PS4 vs X1 reveal had a more proeminent difference than the games on X1X vs PS4Pro.

Games do matter. As well as UI, controller, and network. That's why I own over 100 games on Xbone and maybe 1/5th of that on PS4. That's also why I'd be more excited about an Xbox mid gen refresh than the half assed refresh Sony gave us.

What games were even shown during the PS4 reveal?  Fucking Killzone and Knack? lol. This is hilarious. It's ok, man. The X is not even going to outsell the Xbone S, let alone your PS4. There is no need for such nonsense.

And all the games that looked better on PS4 vs X1, but sure we know that you preffer MS, no need to say it. But sure you are diverging so much from your point on being a monster just to justify your difference in consideration.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

shikamaru317 said:
Zekkyou said:

No, them not being a native 4k at E3 only confirms that they weren't a native 4k at E3. Not only are both still in development, but what we see at E3 is often an independent demo build. Let's wait until they've released before coming to firm conclusions.

Yeah, the games are still in development, plus we know the XDK isn't finished yet. If the rumors are true, developers can only really access about 80% of the final Scorpio specs with the current XDK. That extra 20% could potentially push them to native 4K. Some of the 3rd party games that were checkerboard at E3 could also hit native 4K once the final XDK is released as well.

Perhaps, but we also have to take into account that a lot of E3 demos promise more that what we actually get in the end. Watchdogs and the division are prime examples. So we still cant say for sure that even 20% more power is enouf. Or if 4k comes true and they do needed more power, we will see a noticeable drop in detail or some other compromise. And to that I would say, is that worth it for "true 4k"?



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DonFerrari said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

Games do matter. As well as UI, controller, and network. That's why I own over 100 games on Xbone and maybe 1/5th of that on PS4. That's also why I'd be more excited about an Xbox mid gen refresh than the half assed refresh Sony gave us.

What games were even shown during the PS4 reveal?  Fucking Killzone and Knack? lol. This is hilarious. It's ok, man. The X is not even going to outsell the Xbone S, let alone your PS4. There is no need for such nonsense.

And all the games that looked better on PS4 vs X1, but sure we know that you preffer MS, no need to say it. But sure you are diverging so much from your point on being a monster just to justify your difference in consideration.

I prefer the Xbox, not Microsoft. Understand that first.

You're the one who began delving deeper than specs, looking for some double standard that doesn't exist. Hope that helps.



LudicrousSpeed said:
DonFerrari said:

And all the games that looked better on PS4 vs X1, but sure we know that you preffer MS, no need to say it. But sure you are diverging so much from your point on being a monster just to justify your difference in consideration.

I prefer the Xbox, not Microsoft. Understand that first.

You're the one who began delving deeper than specs, looking for some double standard that doesn't exist. Hope that helps.

Sure sure... one 40% is much more significant than the other... because of controller and network, totally makes sense.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."