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The biggest problem for the switch is ...?

Focus on PlayStation 4 and/or xbox in future 16 7.37%
 
The switch-hardware, not strong enough 51 23.50%
 
The weak interest of other developers 34 15.67%
 
No trust in 3rd party support 28 12.90%
 
It changes-with stronger ... 4 1.84%
 
I think .. (other opinion) 11 5.07%
 
Many reasons from the list !! 26 11.98%
 
See results 47 21.66%
 
Total:217
KazumaKiryu on 15 June 2017

We are all here because we want proper discussions. But your off-topic discussions are not good. PLEASE stay with the topic. Your first comments have changed the subject @ RolStoppable

I like AAA-games, yes. But also other, Dragon Ball Fighters Z, Tropico or MarvelvsCapcom is for example not an AAA-game. This is not just about AAA games-topics. I am interested in the general situation of the 3rd games on switch, especially after the E3. You know..? I accept other opinions, no problem. Of course - everyone should play this.. what he likes :) But find it only not good, if someone here with other topics comes and thereby the discussion changes. Please look at his first comment(by RolStoppable). And even after that it is partly about quite different things -.- i wish me only decent (& exciting)-discussions on the subject.

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pokoko on 15 June 2017
RolStoppable said:
pokoko said:

What's that got to do with anything at all?  

I'm not the one saying an unreleased game is "the best", especially not when there is a game out in the same genre with a 93 rating that many people feel is a classic.

Is it better than Persona 5 or any of the other games that are yet to be released?  I have no idea--and neither do you.  Not unless you're making up your mind based on something other than the actual game, of course.

You passed judgment on Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and called it a "rather okay-ish looking RPG". What is that based on? The first Xenoblade Chronicles has a Metascore of 92.

We both may not know the final result yet, but my claim of "the best" is more reasonable than your claim of "rather okay-ish".

It's based on the trailer I watched.  I said it looked okay-ish based on that, which is fine, people have to make preliminary judgements before they buy anything.  I'm certainly not making a definitive judgement.  That would be what you're doing.

You can try to spin and deflect (and deflect, and deflect) all you want but everyone knows your criteria for "the best."  You're certainly not fooling anyone.  If Persona 5 was a Nintendo exclusive, you'd move that into "the best" category.  You--and only you--are responsible for dragging down your credibility.

It's just the simple truth.



pokoko on 15 June 2017
RolStoppable said:
pokoko said:

It's based on the trailer I watched.  I said it looked okay-ish based on that, which is fine, people have to make preliminary judgements before they buy anything.  I'm certainly not making a definitive judgement.  That would be what you're doing.

You can try to spin and deflect (and deflect, and deflect) all you want but everyone knows your criteria for "the best."  You're certainly not fooling anyone.  If Persona 5 was a Nintendo exclusive, you'd move that into "the best" category.  You--and only you--are responsible for dragging down your credibility.

It's just the simple truth.

Oh please, I have posted so many reviews for games on this website that your insuniations of me being a blind Nintendo fanboy simply don't work.

Then why did you proclaim Xenoblade Chronicles 2 "the best RPG of the year?"

What are your criteria?  Have you PLAYED Xenoblade Chronicles 2?  Have you played Persona 5?  Have you played Ni No Kuni 2?  Have you played NieR: Automata?

What, exactly, is your basis for saying that XC2 is better than those games? 



KazumaKiryu on 15 June 2017

Your first comment has nothing to do with the topic. And you know it too :) You changed the subject and talked about "exclusive references". If you see the situation differently, its not a problem - but that does not explain the change of topics. Would be nice if it goes continue normally :) @RolStoppable



Namiirei on 15 June 2017

Problem N°1 : The switch hardware, way too weak for most of multi-games.

Problem N°2 : Sales.
On nintendo home-consoles, only Nintendo licences sell well, all the rest flop horribly once the bigs guns are here (Mario, mario kart, splatoon, zelda,animal crossing, etc).



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A7XRayDog247 on 15 June 2017

Well I think a lot of developers got burned by trying to put their games on the WiiU, and with the lack of sales there Nintendo needs to do a lot to gain back their trust. Which is why I think you have the likes of EA and Bethesda putting out only one or two games to "test the waters" essentially.



pokoko on 15 June 2017
RolStoppable said:
pokoko said:

Then why did you proclaim Xenoblade Chronicles 2 "the best RPG of the year?"

What are your criteria?  Have you PLAYED Xenoblade Chronicles 2?  Have you played Persona 5?  Have you played Ni No Kuni 2?  Have you played NieR: Automata?

What, exactly, is your basis for saying that XC2 is better than those games? 

Confidence. Pretty much the same reason why I was convinced that reviewers would masturbate all over Breath of the Wild without having played the game myself.

It could turn out wrong in both cases (it didn't in Zelda's case), but making such a big deal about this one specific quote of me is really only a deflection of Kazuma and you to not discuss the larger topic at hand. The topic is about Switch's future regarding software. He didn't like my answer and told me that it's off-topic. But it wasn't off-topic, it's just that he doesn't like the answer because he wants to do what he does most of the time: Advertise the PS4.

You look past both his behavior in this thread and his posting history to take shots at me that could be even easier directed at him. You saw a chance to discredit me in this thread, but somehow you missed that you were siding with Kazuma.

I have absolutely no idea about Kazuma's posting history.  You have a problem with his posts, feel free to disagree with him.  And, yes, I am aware that you're trying to deflect the discussion away from you and your "best game of the year" proclamations and your criteria for those announcements.

Back to your "confidence".  What is it based on?  Actually, let me repeat some of my questions that you missed:

 

"What are your criteria?  Have you PLAYED Xenoblade Chronicles 2?  Have you played Persona 5?  Have you played Ni No Kuni 2?  Have you played NieR: Automata?

What, exactly, is your basis for saying that XC2 is better than those games?"


In other words, why are you confident that XC2 is better than those games?



Maynard_Tool on 15 June 2017

Are we gonna get this threads every week?



03/10/09 HUGE day in my life:

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=63437&page=1

StuOhQ on 15 June 2017
KazumaKiryu said:
monocle_layton said:
Biggest issue is how anyone expects a game like Destiny 2 to be on the Switch

It's not just about "Destiny". What is with Games like The Evil Within or Assassins Creed Origins? Any old game (like Skyrim or Disgaea 5) is now in demand. A week ago I read here, people expect a Final Fantasy 15 or Dark Souls 3-port for switch. But I think .. that is unrealistic. For various reasons. What do you think about, what is the main reason? That is the biggest question. Or do you think differently?

 

I wouldn't count out Dark Souls 3 yet. From software is definitely supporting the system and they'be been quiet. We also didn't hear about NBA 2K18 much, despite knowing it's in the pipeline.



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pokoko on 15 June 2017
RolStoppable said:
pokoko said:

I have absolutely no idea about Kazuma's posting history.  You have a problem with his posts, feel free to disagree with him.  And, yes, I am aware that you're trying to deflect the discussion away from you and your "best game of the year" proclamations and your criteria for those announcements.

Back to your "confidence".  What is it based on?  Actually, let me repeat some of my questions that you missed:

"What are your criteria?  Have you PLAYED Xenoblade Chronicles 2?  Have you played Persona 5?  Have you played Ni No Kuni 2?  Have you played NieR: Automata?

What, exactly, is your basis for saying that XC2 is better than those games?"

In other words, why are you confident that XC2 is better than those games?

I've already told you that the first Xenoblade Chronicles has a Metascore of 92. It's not a big leap from there for it to score better than all the other games you mentioned.

I see.  So that's all it takes to make a definitive proclamation for "the best"?  I'll have to remember that.