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celador said:
jason1637 said:
He didn't make the tales and tomb raider deals. Titanfall and SO are exclusives not multiplats.

he did make the Dead Rising 4 one then?

We cant really say since Dead Rising 3 was an exclusive. It could have been a multigame deal.



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Sure you don't Phil.



these suits talk so much bs.



Machiavellian said:
DonFerrari said:

Except he indeed did a lot of the things he say he condem.

Can you provide an example of those things since he took over 3 years ago.  Please do not use timed exclusive since its not the same thing as content.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjksIjCgL7UAhUB6oMKHewzAf4QFghSMAg&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.polygon.com%2F2016%2F3%2F7%2F11173606%2Fthe-division-dlc-xbox-one-exclusive&usg=AFQjCNG8C6wRf9rZPIsrb0t0hKGJwAbzkQ&sig2=4PyKjnS1XRdpKWoKunY6Aw just a quick example

Also we have some games with levels and chars based on MS IP that are exclusive, so it fits even though is silly.

But are you trying to deny that he is hypocrite and that they do even worse pratice with other exclusivity deals?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

It's actually sort of good to see with each new thing he says there is less and less defenders of it, while the defenders post more and more to make up for the numbers it's nice to see that the majority of people have had enough of his PR spin, honestly after their E3 showing effectively zero reason to own their console it's nice to see the sales and defense reflecting that fact.

This really isn't the time to be trying to take jabs at other companies right now for MS, they need to deliver a product which gamers want, then when they get on a high horse they can talk down to others, right now it just comes off like a mad man on a street corner yelling at a building about how great his games are.



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JRPGfan said:
"We Don’t Hold Back Content from Other Platforms" - phil spencer.

22 exclusives where like 20 of them where "timed exclusives".

And that's even worse lol.  ROTTR comes to mind.  Phil comes out with a lot of strange statements. 



torok said:
JRPGfan said:
"We Don’t Hold Back Content from Other Platforms" - phil spencer.

22 exclusives where like 20 of them where "timed exclusives".

We don't call them "Timed exclusives" anymore. "Console launch exclusives" is the new deal.

The industry never called them timed exclusives. in fact, "Console Launch Exclusive" and "First on x" are a welcome step up from the good old days when timed exclusives were simply called edclusives if you ask me.



DonFerrari said:
Machiavellian said:

Can you provide an example of those things since he took over 3 years ago.  Please do not use timed exclusive since its not the same thing as content.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjksIjCgL7UAhUB6oMKHewzAf4QFghSMAg&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.polygon.com%2F2016%2F3%2F7%2F11173606%2Fthe-division-dlc-xbox-one-exclusive&usg=AFQjCNG8C6wRf9rZPIsrb0t0hKGJwAbzkQ&sig2=4PyKjnS1XRdpKWoKunY6Aw just a quick example

Also we have some games with levels and chars based on MS IP that are exclusive, so it fits even though is silly.

But are you trying to deny that he is hypocrite and that they do even worse pratice with other exclusivity deals?

The Division has been in the works for a long time. That deal was done before the gen started, like Sony and Destiny.



IamAwsome said:
DonFerrari said:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjksIjCgL7UAhUB6oMKHewzAf4QFghSMAg&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.polygon.com%2F2016%2F3%2F7%2F11173606%2Fthe-division-dlc-xbox-one-exclusive&usg=AFQjCNG8C6wRf9rZPIsrb0t0hKGJwAbzkQ&sig2=4PyKjnS1XRdpKWoKunY6Aw just a quick example

Also we have some games with levels and chars based on MS IP that are exclusive, so it fits even though is silly.

But are you trying to deny that he is hypocrite and that they do even worse pratice with other exclusivity deals?

The Division has been in the works for a long time. That deal was done before the gen started, like Sony and Destiny.

https://www.onmsft.com/news/rocket-league-get-exclusive-content-xbox-one

We can probably go all day long with evidences of his hypocritical behavior



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
IamAwsome said:

The Division has been in the works for a long time. That deal was done before the gen started, like Sony and Destiny.

https://www.onmsft.com/news/rocket-league-get-exclusive-content-xbox-one

We can probably go all day long with evidences of his hypocritical behavior

Uh, that content just matches what PlayStation users already had with PS themed cosmetics and the Sweet Tooth car IIRC. That's not marketing or, for all we know, deal related. As your link says, each platform has exclusive cosmetic and car DLC.

Your Division example misses the point as well as that's expansion content. Papa Phil is referring to base game content walled off for certain platforms. Destiny 2 has exclusive content removed from the base game for Xbone and PC users. Division doesn't do that.

The only example I can think of is that Ultimate Team Legends shit in FIFA, but who knows when that deal was made. MS had FIFA rights even during the downfall of the Matrick regime.

i don't care about time exclusive releases or DLC. But what Destiny does is the shadiest shit ever and I'm glad The Xboss won't be subjecting gamers to that filth :)