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PAOerfulone said:
vivster said:
Hard to tell the fps but from the camera delay it could be 30.

On the great side, it definitely looks like a proper 3D Mario. Screw Galaxy and 3DW.

Galaxy > Galaxy 2 > 3D World = Sunshine > 64 = 3D Land

Well, someone doesn't know how to properly Nintendo. Everyone knows World > Odyssey? > 64 > nothing > the dirt under my shoes > more nothing > 3d World.



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Seeing as how I am 100% all the 3D Mario games right now, and just finished 64 and Sunshine and am now curently in the middle of Galaxy, I would have a thing or 2 fresh in my mind. 
And I'm talking strictly 3D Mario games. World has nothing to do with this.

Super Mario 64, while still a good game overall, has NOT aged well. 
- The control is stiff. 
- The camera is atrocious
- The 100 coin missions suck Donkey Kong Dong. And there are 15 of them, 1 for each level in the game, and they only get worse the further you go along. 
- The Caps are very underwhelming. 
It's just not the same game it was on 1996. It deserves great respect for all the things it revolutionized and standardized in gaming, and I'm willing to cut it some slack for being the first 3D game with analog control, but it's NOT the best 3D Mario game anymore. Far from it.





For me it's

Galaxy > SM64 > Galaxy 2 > 3D World > 3D Land > Sunshine

Sunshine is the only 3D Mario I just didn't bother completing.



PAOerfulone said:
vivster said:
Hard to tell the fps but from the camera delay it could be 30.

On the great side, it definitely looks like a proper 3D Mario. Screw Galaxy and 3DW.

Galaxy > Galaxy 2 > 3D World = Sunshine > 64 = 3D Land

Funny enough I actually agree with this only I'd switch 64 and Sunshine.



That's cool.

For me, I just think that Sunshine did a great job of improving upon 64 in general. Better control. MUCH better camera. More varied level design (mostly thanks to F.L.U.D.D.). 
When I'm just going for the Final Boss against Bowser, I find Sunshine FAR superior to 64. 
But going for 100%... is a different story altogether. 



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This guy can sum up my feelings for the 3D Mario games close to perfectly.
For those of you who are into reviews, Let's Plays, and that kind of stuff, I HIGHLY recommend Somecallmejohnny. The guy is awesome!
His main channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg83RGdRpwfvoFEuE2zWKZA

His 3D Mario reviews:
64 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqX9IFJC9y4&list=PL67DA96C328E86210&index=67&t=858s
Sunshine - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQK16yhkPug&list=PL67DA96C328E86210&index=68
Galaxy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxD96_wMvLU&list=PL67DA96C328E86210&index=69
Galaxy 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uz-mydO_BY&list=PL67DA96C328E86210&index=70
3D Land - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox_FbIjJGoE&index=71&list=PL67DA96C328E86210
3D World - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzHTVNPk35A&index=72&list=PL67DA96C328E86210



Sunshine is an abomination. A Mario game set in one setting (all tropical levels) is just wrong right off the get go.



PAOerfulone said:

Seeing as how I am 100% all the 3D Mario games right now, and just finished 64 and Sunshine and am now curently in the middle of Galaxy, I would have a thing or 2 fresh in my mind. 
And I'm talking strictly 3D Mario games. World has nothing to do with this.

Super Mario 64, while still a good game overall, has NOT aged well. 
- The control is stiff. 
- The camera is atrocious
- The 100 coin missions suck Donkey Kong Dong. And there are 15 of them, 1 for each level in the game, and they only get worse the further you go along. 
- The Caps are very underwhelming. 
It's just not the same game it was on 1996. It deserves great respect for all the things it revolutionized and standardized in gaming, and I'm willing to cut it some slack for being the first 3D game with analog control, but it's NOT the best 3D Mario game anymore. Far from it.



Of course it's not the best, that's why they made Odyssey to take its place. Galaxy and 3D world aren't real 3D Mario anyway.



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Bullshit!
3D World is one thing, but Galaxy??? 
120 Power Stars. Check.
Power Stars divided into different stages with different objectives: Check.
3D Camera: Check.
Mario running with his arms wide open: Check
Long Jump: Check.
Wall Jump: Check.
Triple Jump: Check.
Hub-world that connects the different sections that lead to each level: Check.
Explorating within the Levels: Check.
3 Bowser Levels with the same strategy to beat him all three times: Check.

Super Mario Galaxy is every single bit of a 3D Mario game as Super Mario 64. Checkmate.



Double Post.