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Is microsoft fighting back?

Their trying their best 50 22.52%
 
As long as it doesnt co$t them, sure. 51 22.97%
 
They gave up 121 54.50%
 
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JRPGfan said:
forest-spirit said:
Microsoft as a whole? I don't think they'll give up anytime soon, not as long as Windows is as big for gaming as it is today. The future of Xbox might be uncertain though but it's still a powerful brand so it wouldn't make any sense to just put it under the axe. Even if MS stops making their own consoles they'd probably keep the Xbox brand.

When I say "given up" I think.... trying to really push sales, for this generation.

I dont think MS will drop out as long as they see profit in staying around.

Its like after they stumbled out the gate, they decided to cut back on costs for xbox.

Maybe next gen, with Xbox Two, they ll dedicate more to trying again.

I think they'll prioritise working on the next stage of Xbox over trying to rejuvenate the Xbone. So in that sense I suppose one could say they've given up, in the same way Nintendo "gave up" on Wii U by not cutting price and really putting an effort in for increasing HW sales. On the other hand they are releasing a new Xbone model so I don't know.

As for the next generation I don't see them increasing their investments in consoles. Their focus will be on Xbox as a service more than a brand of consoles.



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I voted they gave up. I think MS is slowly leaving the console market and will not return in a while.



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The central parts of MS have been wanting to dump the Xbox division for some time now, the excuses to do so are racking up. I think there's a reason they're trying to offer an olive branch to the PC gamers who were abandoned by them many years ago, the signs are pretty clear from where I'm sitting.
I for one would welcome MS home to PC gaming again, they did amazing things on that platform, but Xbox never gave me anything I'll really ever miss and I never bothered to buy an Xbox and never really wanted one. That's just my personal opinion though, I know the brand has a very large fanbase, but there's a limit to how much money MS are willing to lose and basically not gain anything neither in influence or appreciation for it.



tinfamous12 said:
They're releasing a new console. I'm sure games will come. I think they'll show out at Gamescom and E3 2018 with new IP and VR. This was not the time for all that imo. Launch the console, show investment into more diverse games and original ideas, and grow the brand beyond Halo and Gears. I think Microsoft succeeded, and honestly, I was very glad to see way less shooters and more games with innovative gameplay. Indies or not, i think Microsoft succeeded on those fronts and did something completely unexpected.

I agree with this.  MS cannot change the narative with this current gen.  What they can do is build to the future.  The price of the OneX says it all.  MS is not looking to bleed money in a effort to gain some small market share against Sony right now because right now their lead is just to large.  It would take Sony to make some really bone headed moves and even then their lead is just to wide.  The tone I got from the conference is that we are making a diverse console that plays old and new games.  They are playing to their base and keeping themselves in the green.



Mummelmann said:
The central parts of MS have been wanting to dump the Xbox division for some time now, the excuses to do so are racking up. I think there's a reason they're trying to offer an olive branch to the PC gamers who were abandoned by them many years ago, the signs are pretty clear from where I'm sitting.
I for one would welcome MS home to PC gaming again, they did amazing things on that platform, but Xbox never gave me anything I'll really ever miss and I never bothered to buy an Xbox and never really wanted one. That's just my personal opinion though, I know the brand has a very large fanbase, but there's a limit to how much money MS are willing to lose and basically not gain anything neither in influence or appreciation for it.

MS has never been run by investors so who cares what they want.  What matter is what the top brass that run the company wants and so far they see a place for the Xbox brand and eco system.  What you will see is that MS will continue to merge their effort on the PC and console side making both experience seamless.



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They just shifted strategy. I doubt they'll leave. Not when the PC gaming side of things is just getting started.



RolStoppable said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

Sony's endgame died? Explain. 

Sony's endgame was control over the living room and replacing Windows as the most popular platform for all kinds of entertainment. Video games merely served as an entry point. Sony was open about this; in the '90s Kutaragi explicitly stated that Sony's competition isn't Nintendo or Sega, but Microsoft. This triggered Microsoft, and since their request for a partnership with Sony was turned down, they had to look elsewhere. Nintendo turned them down too, Sega did go down themselves, so Microsoft had to launch their own console to combat Sony. That's how Xbox came into existence.

With the PS3, Sony pulled out all the stops and created the computer entertainment system that Kutaragi always dreamed of. It turned into a huge failure for Sony. Meanwhile, consumer behavior began to shift away from the TV as the central place for entertainment consumption, because smart devices were introduced. The story of generation 8 is that Microsoft went all out to secure the title of convergence box with the Xbox One (which failed just like the PS3) while Sony made a correction with the PS4. Learning from the failure of the PS3, Sony realized that they have to secure the entry point before they can do anything else, so the PS4 put more emphasis on video games again.

By now the consumer behavior has shifted even more towards smart devices, so the battle over the living room holds no real importance anymore. It's safe to assume that PlayStation isn't a threat to Windows. Sony's endgame isn't going to work, even if they should try another time with the PS5. Consequently, what motivation is there for Microsoft to invest into a video game console?

So the PS5 could potentially be another attempt at dominating the living room, like the PS3 with Blu-Ray, and the XB1 with "sports, tv, sports"? That does not bode well for the future of games.

 If both MS and Sony have the same grand ambitions of doing more with their games division, than just games, then the next logical step would be to move towards "games/tv/movies as a service". So MS would try to get more people paying for XBox Live, and Sony would push the hell out of PS Now. Eventually you wouldn't be able to buy a game anymore, physically or digitally. Instead you would be paying a monthly fee to have access to said games in the same way that you pay a monthly fee to have access to other media. Except games are more costly to make, so the monthly fee would be much higher. Maybe $15 a month for the games, and $10 a month to play online. That way they'd be able to milk a good $300 a year from a consumer that only buys three games at $60 a year. 

Why is every corperation's main strategy for profit to just screw the consumer over? 



I thought their presentation was fine. Really, the only thing I had an issue with is how terrible the Scorpio's name is.

$500 was a good price point for a true 4k console too; I'll be preordering it as soon as it's available.



Yes, they gave up. Sure, they have the money to do whatever they want, and they did exactly what they wanted: They gave up. Keeping up with the console market is not as profitable to them as their other departments, so they are simply catering to their niche audience.



They've given up so badly they are releasing another console.



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