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I feel nauseous looking at people who eat shit... i don't hate them... but i just look away everytime they start eating shit... it is not like they forced me to watch them. Now seeing people drink piss, surprisingly i am ok with it. Am I a shit hater? I dunno i just look away when some good friends does it...



 

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I don't think there's anything wrong with having preferences, as long as you're not looking down on your fellow human beings. I personally don't care what people are doing romantically or sexually, assuming both parties are consenting and no abuse is involved. From what you describe, you might be overly empathetic and just imagining yourself in those situations. It sounds weird...but I don't think it's uncommon either; I'm definitely guilty of it too to a certain extent.

I will say though, I have little to no respect for the crowd that seems to think everyone needs to align with their same preferences. I've seen people in anime fandoms that will turn every established hetero pairing into a gay or lesbian one, but the second someone does the reverse, they get labelled as a homophobe or a "cis scumbag". It's part of why I swore off that repugnant cesspool of juvenile retardation that is Tumblr.



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Jumpin said:

Blaming religious culture is short-changing the issue, and not even close to accurate; it is mostly the accepted answer because it is fashionable to blame things on religion. Homophobia also exists, perhaps even more strongly, in non-religious culture; and in nations who never had a homophobic religious culture.

I grew up in a culture where the vast majority of people were non-religious. When I was a kid and a teenager, what was considered the most offensive insult was to be called gay. It was the synonymous with being called unmanly, wimpy, queer/weird, and effeminiate, wrapped all in one. Ironically, it was usually the few religious kids who were often the target of being called gay. It is largely about how most cultures of masculinity shape people, and because homosexuality is comparitively rare to heterosexuality.

The patriarchal hierarchy seems to sum up what you are attempting to describe here.



My thoughts on homosexuality are the same as my thoughts on celery.  I find it gross, but if other people like it, that's fine.  And two girl celerys together are hot.

 

VGPolyglot said:
vivster said:

And now what? Why would I even want to desensitize myself? I desensitized myself to a lot of things but that was because I wanted to or because it happened naturally. There are a lot of things I don't want to be desensitized about.

Well, why wouldn't you want to be desensizited to it? It's not it's violence or drug use, there's no need to be sensitive towards it, as it's not something dangerous.

Why would one go through the effort to desensitize myselves?  I don't like watching gay people having sex, and I'm pretty sure most gay people don't want me to watch them having sex.

I've desensitized myself to things like disliking vegetables, because they are good for my health and desensitizing myself will benefit my life.  I don't see how forcing myself to like (or not dislike) watching two guys having gay sex will enhance my life or anyone else's in any way.



I totally get what you are saying in regards to the nauseated feeling you get. Except I am a gay guy and feel queasy if I see female 'parts'. I also feel weird seeing totally feminine guys at clubs and such. It must be a natural defense[?} mechanism. Not phobic, just not my thing. Just like being left handed, a certain percentage are just born that way. Always were and always will be...



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I'm heterosexual myself and still find that while the concept of homosexuality is perfectly fine in my mind, I still internally (and sometimes externally) cringe when I see two men kissing. When I see two women kiss, I don't find it nearly as disturbing visually, which suggests it's more a male-to-male thing than a homosexuality thing.

The physical side of those relationships seems to bother me to some degree, though it has lessened. That's where my rational side and instinctive gut reactions meet, and I'm trying to be conscious of it and tone it down.



Jumpin said:
vivster said:

The definition of racism is claiming race superiority. I doubt any race is inherently superior or inferior hence I have by definition no racist tendencies. If you try to redefine racism as not liking certain things them I'm apparently racist against all races because each has their own uggos.

No, that's the definition of racial supremacy. Racism is discrimination or prejudice based on race or ethnicity:  which your porn habits are guilty of. You are defining racism too narrowly because you do not want to fall under that label.

Liking something more than another thing is not discrimination. It's a preference. You can't like everything equally.



Nah, I dont think youre homophobic.  And I also think what you feel is very normal.

 

For example, I dont like watching two very fat or very old people going at it.  Does that mean that I hate fat or old people? Of course not!  I just dont wanna see them having sex.



Jumpin said:
vivster said:

There is no problem with growing up and developing different likes. What I find attractive and what not is my deal and it doesn't have anything to do with certain tendencies.

There are a lot of things in women that I don't find attractive. Body weight, skin color, size of lips, hairstyle, hair color, the shape of genitals etc. I fail to see how that is wrong or something to be ashamed of. It's just superficial. I also don't like coconut.

Sounds like you're trying to jump through hoops to not admit to being a little bit internally racist.

Just like vivster, I find black girls rather unattractive. How does that make us racist?

I also prefer girls with blue eyes over girls with brown eyes. Does that mean I'm a nazi because I think the Aryan race is surperior?



Wiibaron said:
I totally get what you are saying in regards to the nauseated feeling you get. Except I am a gay guy and feel queasy if I see female 'parts'. I also feel weird seeing totally feminine guys at clubs and such. It must be a natural defense[?} mechanism. Not phobic, just not my thing. Just like being left handed, a certain percentage are just born that way. Always were and always will be...

Or it could be what you've been told to hate since a young age. It's not so much gays that parents and society hates but effeminate men. I used to hate them too until I realize just how stupid that was.