StarOcean said:
VGPolyglot said:
Well Star, I guess you need to roast some people here!
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I don't really want to. I love everyone here XD even people I clash with a lot. Everyone, even the trouble makers, are people I like. That's not to say people don't annoy me. I don't agree with Aelous (however you spell his name) defending Trump so much. But when you sit down and talk with him about politics, he's a cool dude -pretty reasonable too. I'd love to just have a casual political talk with him sometime. I don't agree with him but I do respect him.
I'll say you're probably my fave reg user though. Idk where you were the past few years. You seemed to pop out of nowhere in 2017. But youre awesome
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I think everyone (besides maniacs) are typically just regular people that we end up judging too early. It's hard to not be biased when you disagree with someone's mindset, but in the end I'm sure we're all capable of being acquaintances at the least.
Johnw1104 said:
monocle_layton said:
I don't think it has made us hateful. Rather, it shows how terrible some people actually are.
Everyone is capable of having a reasonable discussion, regardless of what you believe. For instance, Barney and I have different beliefs surrounding immigration, but we are capable of talking like grown adults.
People forget that politics should be DISCUSSED, not fought over. There's no need in calling someone a libtard just because they think Trump is a terrible person. On the other hand, no need to call someone retarded for not being liberal. I can give so many more examples, but I believe you get the point
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I'm close with many people who are on opposite ends of the political spectrum, and it kills me to hear how some of them talk about those "other" people as if they're monsters, as I know from personal experience that it's not true in either direction. They all have their reasons, but none of them seem to have any sense of who the other side is or what motivates them.
Worse, though, is the fact that they seem to show no signs of making any effort to improve familiarity with their political opposites. I've tried to bridge this gap by easing them into viewing one another as something other than monsters, but I swear people seem to be in a state of contented hate of one another unlike anything I've ever seen.
Obviously there's plenty of causes, but two definitely spring to mind: First, the ever widening gulf can rather precisely be tracked back to the growth of social media, which provided a platform for every sensationalist clickbait "news" site on the planet to target, comfort, and validate people's beliefs with bogus or severely slanted articles designed to bring them back for more. Second, it certainly doesn't help that in our two party system we've gradually neatly divided all stances and policies between two contradictory halves, making the relationship all the more contentious.
I'm just worn out, especially as I know it's only going to get worse from here. We seem to have reached a tipping point, and we have a president who is not capable whatsoever of calming the nation or bringing people together, and is also simultaneously beloved and reviled by huge segments of the population in a way that we've not seen in quite some time from a president.
I think I'ma build some house underwater, set it up like Sealab 2021 with a kelp harvest and such, and say goodbye to the surface world.
That, or maybe Gal Gadot can save us by killing Ares.
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It's a shame honestly.
It isn't any better with everything else- take the Palestinian/Israeli conflict for instance. Regardless of what I say, accusations and insults will be thrown. If I speak out against Israel's illegal settlements, I'll be called pro-hamas, anti-semitic, neocon, and much more. If I criticize the Palestinian government, I'm considered a pro-israel leftard or a zionist shrill.
The Islam issue isn't any better.
I say that Islam isn't behind all the issues and we ourselves contributed to the destabilization of the Middle East, and conservatives will call me a pro-islam apologist
I say Muslims aren't perfect and should be given criticism like anyone else and I'm accused of being an Islamophobe.
You honestly can't win in today's age of politics. I can carry out a several-hour long discussion without using personal insults. Some people can't make one statement without using ad hominems.
A lot of users on here want to shut down the politics section, but I'm glad it's here. It lets me have discussions I can rarely see anymore. We're far from perfect, but it's certainly much better than anything