Pemalite said:
Miyamotoo said:
Sharper, cleaner UI elements does not same effect on 6.2" screen compared to TV, and again Nintendo wouldn't that in any case, even eShop in docked mode is running at 720p.
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Again. You simply arn't getting it and keep missing the point. That is the 3rd time now. - It would if the screen was larger and higher resolution.
Miyamotoo said:
Of Course I understand that, but that wouldn't change fact GPU would need to run at higher clock and that again means lower battery life despite less power hungry screen.
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Again. You simply are not getting it. Again.
If the screen is using less power, then the GPU can use more power and the device will overall use the same amount of power as it does now resulting in a bigger, higher resolution screen with faster performance for the same battery life.
Miyamotoo said:
Of Course that yields and production capacity it could easily be an issue for Switch where was in production.
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Not really. These are tiny chips and you can fit a ton of these chips on a wafer. And because the chips are relatively small, you get higher yields. Physics. Isn't it an amazing thing?
Miyamotoo said:
Chips exist but most likly they couldnt be done on time for Switch (fully tested with huge stock already produced), Nintendo couldn't wait last minute for X2 chips, like I wrote: you need to have chip totally ready, tested with good yield,with good strong production capacity for new chip, and already produced millions of chips months before mass production of Switch itelf starts.
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Nintendo wouldn't have been waiting last minute.
What part of... "Tegra X2 Demonstrated in January 2016" and "Switch launches in March 2017" is last minute? Not to mention there was working silicon in 2015, that wasn't production level ready.
But don't take my word for it. http://www.anandtech.com/show/9902/nvidia-discloses-2016-tegra
Hotchips 2016: http://www.anandtech.com/show/10596/hot-chips-2016-nvidia-discloses-tegra-parker-details
These aren't custom chips Nintendo is buying. Once a chip has been taped out the design is pretty much done. That was over a year ago, nVidia just doesn't have any buyers. No buyers, no selling, no manufacturing.
Tegra Xavier will start sampling in Q4 2017. What that means is there will not be any consumer tablets, phones, boxes of any kind that used the Pascal/Tegra X2 chip... Because, nVidia didn't get any contracts or design wins.
Again, some linkage: http://wccftech.com/nvidia-xavier-soc-tegra-volta-gpu-announced/
Tegra X2/Parker was being designed as far back as 2013. Is 4 years enough time? ;)
Evidence: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/03/19/nvidia_tegra_logan_and_parker/ http://wccftech.com/nvidia-tegra-roadmap-updated-tegra-6-parker-soc-feature-maxwell-gpu-project-denver/
But this ignores the fact that there were Tegra X2/Parker/Pascal based chips in October 2016 in all Tesla powered vehicles. So mass-production would have started a long time earlier.
Miyamotoo said:
Also you need to consider that even X2 chips could be done on time, they would have much higer price than X1 chips and automaticly means higher price point for Switch. Because new 16nm chip production for X2 would have much higher price than price Nvidia gave Nintendo for X1 chips, there are infos that Nvidia had huge stocks of X1 chips and they gave Nintendo great price and offer to use them.
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Cost isn't my problem. I am a consumer. I want more at a lower price. And so should you. A business isn't going to send you flowers and cake because you bought their product, you don't owe them anything.
Nor do we actually know the costing anyway.
Also 16nm isn't "new". It's based on 20nm.
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It seems you don't get it and you missing point, I talking about current 6.2" screen and current chip, not how would that look at 8" screen powered buy more efficient chip.
Again you are that dont get it, lower power screen doesn't mean that will Switch use so much less power that will be able to run at higher clocks needed for 1080p and that battery life will remain same. You don't know if that will be some amount of power, hardly that Amoled screen could cover GPU power needed going from 307MHz to 756MHz. Also Amoled screen has more higher price than IPS so that also could effect on final selling Switch price.
Disagree, and actually we had infos that Nvidia 16nm yields are not good. Not to mention you would need to find production capacity and we already know that all 16nm productions capacity are very buked. You do realise that demonstration and availability for market are not same things, you will see when this last Tegra chip will be used, we even got 1st Tegra X1 devices in 2015. despite "Tegra X2/Parker was being designed as far back as 2013", and we still dont have one single Tegra X2 product on market. Also we got finals specs of Tegra X2 at end of Avgust 2016. not in 2013, 2014. or 2015.
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2016/08/22/parker-for-self-driving-cars/
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-tegra-parker-soc-hot-chips/
What you feel about cost is very subjectively, objectively Nintendo was aiming at more affordable price point off around $300 because and they chased best parts that will fit in that price point while they still making profit on evre sold Switch unit. Yes they could make bigger Switch, bigger resolution, Amoled or some bette screen, more RAM, maybe even somehow X2 chip...but fact is that those things would raise selling price of Switch and you can bet that Switch wouldn't be so popular and great sales if had price point that is $350 or higher.
Tegra X2 is 16nm not 20nm.