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Ruler said:

But here is the problem they completly ignored.

Capcom chose the original 50Hz PAL version because of the German, French, Spanish and other translations of the original PAL release. The US version probably doesnt have these text options in the game.

Making the PAL version 60hz would give tons of sync issues in cutscenes etc. patching the other languages in the US version would be too much work.

Its unbelievable how these so called ''professionals'' completley ignored this fact.

Well you're right they should have mentioned this as the reason behind the issues, but it's not an excuse. Pretty sure all the GTA PS2 games recieved an update in EU to the US frame rate.



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This is exactly what is good about digital foundry making sure people understand they have an option for a superior version of the game. The sort of thing any gaming enthusiast wants to know.



curl-6 said:

Still bitter about DF exposing FFXV's failure to hit 60fps on PS4 Pro, huh?

Nothing to see here folks.

Well technically it did hit 60fps lol, just not very often xD



All dreamcast games had an option for 50 or 60Hz.

The PS2 had an option for it on the dashboard i believe.

There is no reason for what you are saying. They could just use the US version if that was the case. It makes no sense.



think-man said:
curl-6 said:

Still bitter about DF exposing FFXV's failure to hit 60fps on PS4 Pro, huh?

Nothing to see here folks.

Well technically it did hit 60fps lol, just not very often xD

If I recall correctly that's where his beef with DF began; their analysis showed the game spent most of its time significantly below 60fps and he made a thread calling them liars.



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Pemalite said:
You haven't exposed anything. 25fps is not okay.

The highest rated game in metacritic history runs worse than that. 



curl-6 said:
think-man said:

Well technically it did hit 60fps lol, just not very often xD

If I recall correctly that's where his beef with DF began; their analysis showed the game spent most of its time significantly below 60fps and he made a thread calling them liars.

Well you can't argue with facts, the game definitely does spend a significant time below 60fps, in saying that I opted to play it in the 60fps mode and I found the game to be far smoother than the 30fps option. Don't know why, maybe im less sensitive to it. 



Ruler said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWdvP3yUQ_Y

So Digital Foundry strikes back again and i have to poin out their huge flaws in this one. This time they are complaining about the European/PAL version of the PS2 to PS4 version of Code Veronica, which is the original PAL version of the PS2 version. If you watch the video you can see that the PS4 European release is running in 25fps as it is the PAL version from the original 50Hz release, while the US PS4 versions runs at 30fps because of the 60Hz of original PS2 release.

They are bashing the European PS4 version and recommend you to get the US version from the US PSstore. But here is the problem they completly ignored.

Capcom chose the original 50Hz PAL version because of the German, French, Spanish and other translations of the original PAL release. The US version probably doesnt have these text options in the game.

Making the PAL version 60hz would give tons of sync issues in cutscenes etc. patching the other languages in the US version would be too much work.

Its unbelievable how these so called ''professionals'' completley ignored this fact. This video was a total waste of time to watch, it didnt also help other people to clarify which language option the US version has (maybe French for Quebec, Spanish for Latin America?). They are much more concered about counting frames..

DF are probably the MOST professional tech reviewers you can find (at least when it concerns to the videogame industry).

This complain is completely absurd. It's in their scope to consider translation issues, only the performance.

On a (personal) side note, F$ck translations to spanish, german, italian in games. Causing delays in the games I play for decades now.



AlfredoTurkey said:
Pemalite said:
You haven't exposed anything. 25fps is not okay.

The highest rated game in metacritic history runs worse than that. 

You beat me to it. 



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Pemalite said:
You haven't exposed anything. 25fps is not okay.

Elitist!

25fps is like watching a Chaplin era movie in 2017, which can be fun as a novelty but its certainly not an acceptable standard. It's crazy to think that console games haven's really upgraded their frame rates all that much in about 15 years.