| think-man said: Terrible news, when will this madness stop. |
Most likely never.
| think-man said: Terrible news, when will this madness stop. |
Most likely never.
| JRPGfan said: Theres also a shooting in a hospital Oldham. 2 attacks on the same day, within hours? Yeah this was most likely a planned terror attack. Crazy f***ing muslims. |
The issue with the Muslim community is that no one here (including most of the people on VGChartz) seems to understand the cause behind it all.
All of the blame can't go on one issue only. It isn't the immigrants. It isn't Islam. It isn't the west. It isn't Obama. It isn't SJW's or conservatives or any other group. The complex conflicts in the Middle East are a very complicated issue, and hold a major influence on the current state of the Muslim community today. People tend to forget that a lot of crap occured in the Middle East over the past several centuries.
To recap the history, basically the actions of the Muslims themselves combined with the actions of external countries resulted in a clutter mess. Besides the rare exception of a good country/group or two, the Middle east has been on a decline. This is still visible today. Look at Yemen. They're being bombed by Saudi Arabia (a muslim country), but support from the west is what allows them to continue doing so.
Many people on here think that all extremists are goat-humpers living in the desert. The truth is that many of them (especially ones in western countries) were mainly decent people who were taken advantage of. I usually don't tell people this, but I used to accept a form of Islam which is only a bit below the level of ISIS. I was young (only 10), and by the time my parents found out some dumbass was trying to brainwash me, it was too late. They use something to make you feel emotional and support their cause. In my case, it was the Iraq war. Took me quite some time to turn into the tolerant person I am today.
This problem is more than just "blame the west" or "deport the moozlems". In reality, it's a big, gigantic mess created by a more chaotic part in human history. I'd love to see the Muslim community improve, but no one seems to be capable of admitting they need to change.
Goodnightmoon said:
Yeah the usuals are always expecting this news to jump with their doom and gloom agendas before any analysis. |
It is a terrorist attack by definition. They need to act quickly to catch the people behind it. Statistically, islamic terrorists are likely the ones behind it. It would make sense to devote resources to figuring out if that side is behind it until they find evidence to narrow down their search.

barneystinson69 said:
Never. Too many unintegrated Muslims, so this is a fate Europe faces. Fun fact: Most of these terrorist attacks are committed by 2nd generation immigrants who were born and raised in Europe... |
And yet more Americans die every year to fellow gun wielding Americans who aren't properly integrated into society. I'd feel safer in europe then America.
Anyway this isn't guaranteed to be Muslims. A few bombs were taken from the IRA recently. It's very unlikely they'd target a concert but it's possible some crazy Irish dude did it. I'd say 90% chance it was an Islamic extremist though.
For those acting shocked they'd target kids, in their minds they can justify it by the fact thousands of Muslim kids have been killed by Western bombs.
Ganoncrotch said:
Honestly it's thinking like this which creates bigger issues though, even if the person is a "muslim" he would still be an extremeist not the same at all as the 99.999999999% of people who practice the faith. And saying you know who is responsible without knowing is a terrible way to think of the world, you should always know before you start to call out or retaliate. |
Well hard to believe it isn't religion when the common muslim supposedly has these values too:
Stupid sects.
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Bermuda said:
Because I do know who is responsible, just like everyone else. There's just the few SJWs who play the waiting game but....we all know, how could we not. I've seen this same thing before.
There's a terrorist incident and nobody knows whose done it, people obviously assume it's a Muslim, the odd naive guy says "We should wait to see first because that's just racist etc", then to nobodies at all it a Muslim, rinse and repeat with no difference.
It doesn't matter if he's an Extremist, he's still a Muslim. When was the last time a Extremist Buddhist or Sikh killed a bunch of people in a terrorist incident? It doesn't happen. |
areason said:
You didn't seem to get what i was saying. It's not about muslims, it's about islam, which isn't a secular religion. In islamic law, drinking is prohibited, atheism is prohibited, homosexuality is prohibited, apostacy is prohibited, and the list goes on. It isn't a compataible culture with the west, and when nations do not regulate what happens in mosques and when they let sharia courts open up, then you would be a fool not to expect issues. It's never been about muslims, but instead about the religion. And then people come and say "not all muslims", also it's quite funny because any person who drinks, does drugs, has sexual thoughts outside of marriage, or participates in any way shape or form to western culture is branded as a false followers of islam by the religions world leaders, and by it's law.
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Most of the stuff you said are prohibited for Muslims only. In some sects apostasy is not prohibited. Plus ho gave you the flying idea that atheism is prohibited? During the Caliphates Muslims, Christians, atheists, Jews and others lived in the empire and all the other groups could drink and do what they wanted because they were given the right to live according to their beliefs. Muslims and Islam gave women right hundreds of years before you people did in a land where they used to be buried alive and sold as things. Muslims were also tolerant and Islam teaches tolerance. In Islam you cannot be an oppressor if you are following the religion. If we followed Islam forgiveness is the best thing we can give to anybody for any wrongdoings. If we followed Islam then we are not allowed to force our ideals on anyone certainly not commit suicide blasts since it is zulm to yourself and to many other people. Suicide in general is prohibited. Killing one innocent is compared to killing all of humanity in Islam. In Islam, even during war you are not allowed to attack homes, innocents even not trees, crops and shrubbery and animals. Sharia is not even a law the legal side of Islam is fiqh. Sharia is a way of living and is different for every sect. For very conservative wahàbists sure it is oppression but for sufis who are not very extreme in their views, it is completely different. Islam is not the issue it the conditions of war and the culture inside the middle east that is the issue.Its their culture and the way they are taught to think or the way they are brainwashed by the terrorists. The first people that want these groups gone are Muslims since they are the ones most killed and whose hones are most destroyed and yet the largest victim of middle eastern terrorism somehow always her blamed for it as well. These scums are just a couple thousand while Muslims around the world are 1.2billion. And one last thing, in islam, if you are living in a land under non Muslim law the only options allowed are either to follow that law or leave the land. Unless you are being attacked or oppressed you are not allowed to take any action and even if you take action you are required to stop as soon as the oppression ends
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Eagle367 said:
Most of the stuff you said are prohibited for Muslims only. In some sects apostasy is not prohibited. Plus ho gave you the flying idea that atheism is prohibited? During the Caliphates Muslims, Christians, atheists, Jews and others lived in the empire and all the other groups could drink and do what they wanted because they were given the right to live according to their beliefs. Muslims and Islam gave women right hundreds of years before you people did in a land where they used to be buried alive and sold as things. Muslims were also tolerant and Islam teaches tolerance. In Islam you cannot be an oppressor if you are following the religion. If we followed Islam forgiveness is the best thing we can give to anybody for any wrongdoings. If we followed Islam then we are not allowed to force our ideals on anyone certainly not commit suicide blasts since it is zulm to yourself and to many other people. Suicide in general is prohibited. Killing one innocent is compared to killing all of humanity in Islam. In Islam, even during war you are not allowed to attack homes, innocents even not trees, crops and shrubbery and animals. Sharia is not even a law the legal side of Islam is fiqh. Sharia is a way of living and is different for every sect. For very conservative wahàbists sure it is oppression but for sufis who are not very extreme in their views, it is completely different. Islam is not the issue it the conditions of war and the culture inside the middle east that is the issue.Its their culture and the way they are taught to think or the way they are brainwashed by the terrorists. The first people that want these groups gone are Muslims since they are the ones most killed and whose hones are most destroyed and yet the largest victim of middle eastern terrorism somehow always her blamed for it as well. These scums are just a couple thousand while Muslims around the world are 1.2billion. And one last thing, in islam, if you are living in a land under non Muslim law the only options allowed are either to follow that law or leave the land. Unless you are being attacked or oppressed you are not allowed to take any action and even if you take action you are required to stop as soon as the oppression ends |


The social experiment of allowing savages into your backyard with an even more savage religion isn't working. Close your borders and scrutinize the individuals you have now. Restrict their freedoms and ban all things islam. This is the only answer if you truely think about it. But Liberals accept political correctness over bloodshed.