I dont get what you try to say. Point is that Wii U didnt had system seller game in its hole 1st year, and after terrible sales right after holiday season and launch they wanted people to be sure that great games are coming, and in that way try to raise sales. If you remember, they 1st time showed SM3DW at E3 2013. and they released it 5 months later. They basically did showed everything they had at E3 2013. only difference is that most of those games were already spoiled buy that famous January ND.

Totally two different situations, I would said incomparable. Terrible Wii U sales forced Nintendo to show everything they are working on, but Switch is in totally different situation, they can choose whatever they want, and spread announcements. Of Course they focus on 2017. games means more times spended on 2017. games, and actualy TreeHouse play, Demo units play and tournaments proves that, you can hardly expect that for games that will be released in 1-2 year. They can still be focused on 2017. games and show plenty of 2018. games.

No, actualy last ND is great example, they also said focus on ARMS and Splatoon, and we had plenty other games in ND. This is same thing, focus on 2017. games but there will definitely be 2018. games also.

New console doesn't have anything with previous console, GC was biggest fail of Nintendo, but than Wii was selling like crazy and become best selling Nintendo console, and then after Wii and most successful Nintendo console Wii U become worst selling Nintendo console, now we have Switch that comes after biggest Nintendo faile, and Switch break records in sales. What people and gamers know is that Swith obviusly is not Wii U, that already has few phenomenal must play games and that more huge games are coming this year, that Switch is selling great and that is very popular. Difference between 3DS and Wii U promise of support is that they keep that promise out of gate with Switch, 1st year of Switch looks phenomenal, just Zelda BotW blows away complete Wii U 1st year, just look how many strong games Switch has in its 1st 9 months on market.

HD development is one of reasons, but another big reasons is saving of 3DS in time when Nintendo needed to prepare Wii U launch and 1st year lineup. And like I wrote, that was confirmed through some Nintendo interviews where Nintendo developers talked how they put their Wii U projects to side and focused on 3DS projects.

Yes, one biggest and best game ever like launch game, huge system seller game two months later, Splatoon 2 for summer and Mario Odyssey for holiday season. Talking about ARMS, its wild card it can be quite popular game but also can have mediocre popularity. If we talk about biggest games and system seller games in 1st year Switch has probably strongest compared to any other Nintendo console. And of course there will be some other games alongside them and most likely some 2017. game/games that are not still uannounced.

They will definitely show some of 2018. games, but they don't have any reason to now show all their 2018. Switch projects. Dont worry, most people already forget that Wii U existed, while some don't even know that existed.

I too believe they will show 2018 games.
I only question why coming out and specifically say their E3 will focus on 2017 and when they could have just easily said "our games for 2017 and beyond".
I'm not asking for them to bring all 2018 games shown to the showfloor or treehouse. I'm merely asking for them, if 2018 is full of games, to show enough to make people confident in 2018.
I don't think that's too much to ask for.

Failed to support? Not really. They've released over 30 titles on both systems which is the usual amount that they release on a system.

I agree with these sentiments; the way they specificaly said "a focus on 2017 games" certianly gives the impression that they're not planning to announce too much after that. I hope that if that is the case, they have more in store for 2017 than what they've already announced. If not, I hope they do announce some 2018 plans.

I didn't gloss over your answer, i just didn't agree with it.

Those extra games (starting with Stars), are you sure they all exist and that they are all coming out in 2018?

"Nintendo have already made it clear the Switch is gonna get far more consistent support than Wii U and 3DS"
They also promised a lot of support for 3DS and Wii U. Did they deliver? No.
This year is this year and next year is next year. Not to mention that, in terms of original, in-house development, they have 1-2-Switch, Arms, Splatoon 2 and Mario.
I excluded Zelda as that is a Wii U game.
So far, for, 10 months, they have 4 games.

Wii U's problems weren't just lack of games and that 2013 ND revealed that.
It also showed how, despite promising support, they barely had any (in-house or 3rd parties, btw). That's exactly why they said launch window would be so long.

Focusing on 2017 games does not mean they can't show enough 2018 games.
I'm not asking for those 2018 games to be on the show floor or on treehouse. Just show me that 2018 will be a better year in terms of 1st party titles.

After 3DS and Wii U, after a January presentation that barely touched on what's coming in 2018, after saying that at E3 you're focusing on 2017, i have every right to fear that 2018 might not be as good as promised (not a first!).

You didn't acknowledge it at all, hence glossing over. Why ask questions you don't want to hear the answers to? Also, what you're not agreeing with is something that's already worked. Once again, same time last year, we only knew of one Switch game for 2017, yet Switch's 2017 line-up still turned out to be solid and it's not even complete yet.

The point to that example is that they can easily have a great E3 while announcing just a few 2018 games. 

They've made it clear based not on what they've said or promised but what they're actually doing, or do you deny the reality that is the Switch's consistent release schedule so far?

...Oh, you actually are, pretending Xenoblade, Fire Emblem, and especially Zelda n Mario Kart aren't significant games. Well if you're gonna be nonsensical about that even after Zelda and Mario Kart proved they do infact matter a ton despite being ports, then it's no surprise we're still having this argument.

Above all else though, I want to know what is enough games to you. You've been pretty vague this whole time on exactly how many games is satisfactory. You bring up E3 2014 as an example of a great E3 but even then there were only like 4 or 5 newly announced games, and while about half the games covered released in 2015 and beyond, 2014 itself was pretty barren even for 3DS (as were the following years but I digress).

Their ND in 2013 was a desperate act. They didn't want to reveal those games, because a) if you remember, it was most talk than anything, b) time showed (E3 2013) that they didn't reveal them sooner because showing them was their E3 plan.

And that is my point: they don't reveal when they know they won't be able to bring something more to the table when the time comes.
And to cover this up they went to the PR spin that they don't reveal a lot in advance.
They can't reveal what they don't have. Do you really think they are going to E3 and say: "that's pretty much all we have"? They do damage control.

Nintendo studios might have halted Wii U support so they can help out 3DS - no arguments there - but that kinda came after their first problem: not being prepared.
Just to give an example, i remember reading how, when preparing the online infrastructure for Wii U, Nintendo had no idea how PSN or XBlive worked and how that surprised sutdios.

In terms of games, Switch is well above Wii U. But that doesn't mean 2018 will be like that.
If you look at games developed in-house - excluding Zelda as it's an Wii U title and MK 8, for the same reason - you have, for 10 months, 1-2-Switch, Arms, Splatoon 2 and Mario.

I too believe they will show 2018 games.
I only question why coming out and specifically say their E3 will focus on 2017 and when they could have just easily said "our games for 2017 and beyond".
I'm not asking for them to bring all 2018 games shown to the showfloor or treehouse. I'm merely asking for them, if 2018 is full of games, to show enough to make people confident in 2018.
I don't think that's too much to ask for.

Nintendo made too many mistakes with Wii U, but with Switch it's obvious they learned their lessons, and actually that's most obvious when comes to their games for Switch.

Nintendo said that Mario Odyssey was basically done in January but they decided to released in Holiday season, Nintendo is playing smart and they are spreading big games. That's almost certain case for 2018. games also, and I dont think that Mario Odyssey is only almost finished Switch game, that's most likely case for some other unannounced Switch games.

Same reason why they said for last ND that is focused on ARMS and Splatoon, they could also said ARMS and Splatoon and other games, but they said ND with focus on ARMS and Splatoon, now they are doing same thing. Its obvious they are focusing on 2017. games with TreeHouse play, stage demos and tournaments, despite they will definatly show some 2018 games also, but those 2018. games want have TreeHouse play, stage demos or tournaments. They done exactly same thing with last ND, they said focus on ARMS and Splatoon, but there were lotsa other games also. I gave you very clear and good example with Mario Odyssey and possible new Metroid Prime, where is obvious Mario Odyssey has focus with TreeHouse play and stage demos while Metroid Prime beacus is game that is 1-2 years from release would have only trailer and maybe short gameplay trailer. You are actually only person that from some reason doubt about 2018. Switch games, like Nintendo doesn't have anything to show or release in 2018. and fact is that most of Nintendo teams are sheadule to relase new game in 2017. or in 2018.

So they will show some 2018. games in any case despite fact they will focus on 2017. games (with TreeHouse play, stage demos, tournaments..) but you acting like E3 passed and they didn't show any 2018. game and that Nintendo actually don't have any 2018. game.

I didn't gloss over your answer, i just didn't agree with it.

Those extra games (starting with Stars), are you sure they all exist and that they are all coming out in 2018?

"Nintendo have already made it clear the Switch is gonna get far more consistent support than Wii U and 3DS"
They also promised a lot of support for 3DS and Wii U. Did they deliver? No.
This year is this year and next year is next year. Not to mention that, in terms of original, in-house development, they have 1-2-Switch, Arms, Splatoon 2 and Mario.
I excluded Zelda as that is a Wii U game.
So far, for, 10 months, they have 4 games.

Wii U's problems weren't just lack of games and that 2013 ND revealed that.
It also showed how, despite promising support, they barely had any (in-house or 3rd parties, btw). That's exactly why they said launch window would be so long.

Focusing on 2017 games does not mean they can't show enough 2018 games.
I'm not asking for those 2018 games to be on the show floor or on treehouse. Just show me that 2018 will be a better year in terms of 1st party titles.

After 3DS and Wii U, after a January presentation that barely touched on what's coming in 2018, after saying that at E3 you're focusing on 2017, i have every right to fear that 2018 might not be as good as promised (not a first!).

"it's obvious they learned their lessons"
Have they really? Because when i look at their own offering (4 original games during 10 months) i'm not convinced.

"That's almost certain case for 2018"
You are saying this because of one year that had 4 original games and 2 ports. I'm basing what i say on past and recent failures.
Is my criticism/fears that unreasonable?

If this was another ND where they focus on this or that game... ok. But this is E3. This is where they are supposed to bring their A game, the place where they actually show that 2017 was just the start and things are take off next year.
But when they just want to focus on 2017 games, i get reminded of 2015 and that's not good.

I'm only questioning their strategy.
In the past, when they had games to show off they never decided focus on games coming in the current year.
You are also forgetting that they have competition and that MS is going to present Scorpio.
This was supposed to be the year where they showed us why we should trust them and give them our money, not just a repitition of January's presentation.

If, after dropping support for Wii U in  - at least - 2015 and with same happening with 3DS, they can only bring a few number of games for 2017, then i question rightfully so if they did learn and if 2018 is going to be different.