| contestgamer said: HZD is the much bigger IP, so how is this a surprise? BOTW did great or being a smaller IP, and in the end it really doesn't matter because they both sold very, very well. |
Define 'bigger IP'
Which did you enjoy more? | |||
| Breath of the Wild | 402 | 32.74% | |
| Horizon: Zero Dawn | 377 | 30.70% | |
| I haven't played both yet/Unsure | 286 | 23.29% | |
| See Results | 163 | 13.27% | |
| Total: | 1,228 | ||
| contestgamer said: HZD is the much bigger IP, so how is this a surprise? BOTW did great or being a smaller IP, and in the end it really doesn't matter because they both sold very, very well. |
Define 'bigger IP'
well, looks like botw is gonna outpaced hzd in the long run anyway but i found more interesting the *fact* that the ps4 outsold the new nintendo console :S
| Faust said: well, looks like botw is gonna outpaced hzd in the long run anyway but i found more interesting the *fact* that the ps4 outsold the new nintendo console :S |
Is it really surprising though. Nintendo has set a goal to produce ans sell 2 million Switches in March. SInce it sold a bit over 1.3 million in its first week. It's only logical it will sell a bit north of 200k the rest of march. The PS4 is baseline is a bit higher than that. Whether Horizon is going to outsell BotW greatly depends on legs and a holiday bundle. With a bundle it could potentially sell over 6 million in its first year. Uncharted almost did 9 as a reference. But Zelda could sell 8-10 million units as well LT.
Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar
| deskpro2k3 said: The gap is too big, Zelda won't outsell Horizon. |
Some people really pull stuff out of their ass. I mean you are on a website dedicated to sales figures. Where you got all the tools and graphs at your disposal to do your own research. Yet people don't like to put in a little effort. So concerning that 'big gap' you were talking about let me do the math for you:
According to this website as of March 11 combined sales for Breath of the wild are:
2,118,000
HZD is at
2,198,000
Difference:
80,000 units
Doesn't seem that big of a gap now does it? Seems to me that in a week or two HZD will be trailing behind.
Keep in mind that combined install base for switch and wiiu is 40 million behind ps4, I say that's mighty impressive.
abroZ said:
Some people really pull stuff out of their ass. I mean you are on a website dedicated to sales figures. Where you got all the tools and graphs at your disposal to do your own research. Yet people don't like to put in a little effort. So concerning that 'big gap' you were talking about let me do the math for you: According to this website as of March 11 combined sales for Breath of the wild are: 2,118,000 HZD is at 2,198,000 Difference: 80,000 units Doesn't seem that big of a gap now does it? Seems to me that in a week or two HZD will be trailing behind. Keep in mind that combined install base for switch and wiiu is 40 million behind ps4, I say that's mighty impressive. |
Did I hurt your feelings or something?
Let me hit you with some Inductive reasoning. Zelda sales is depended upon how many Nintendo Switch consoles is up on the market, and since there is 2.4mil Switch consoles (currently sold out), that means it's fair to say a maximum of 2.4mil Zelda can be bought on that platform at this given moment. Meanwhile there is 13.9 million Wii U, and Zelda only manages 0.64 mil on that. So if you think it'll break the gap then I'd say that's wishful thinking. It all depends on how fast Nintendo can push out Nintendo Switches. Good luck I guess.

Yes it did. PS4 has a higher installed base. Still a big deal though. Zelda has no competition
It's a little bit funny (or sad), when a 30 years old brand, like Zelda has to fight with a totally new and unkown IP, like Horizon.
You said, PS4 has a higher installed base, but Zelda has not ANY competitor because for Switch there isn't any other professional game. Zelda is the only chice for Swith. While Horizon has dozens or hundreds of competitors from exclusive games to multiplatforms.
deskpro2k3 said:
Did I hurt your feelings or something? Let me hit you with some Inductive reasoning. Zelda sales is depended upon how many Nintendo Switch consoles is up on the market, and since there is 2.4mil Switch consoles (currently sold out), that means it's fair to say a maximum of 2.4mil Zelda can be bought on that platform at this given moment. Meanwhile there is 13.9 million Wii U, and Zelda only manages 0.64 mil on that. So if you think it'll break the gap then I'd say that's wishful thinking. It all depends on how fast Nintendo can push out Nintendo Switches. Good luck I guess. |
First of all, that 2.4 number is an estimation.From Superdata.By that you know hwo reliable that number is.
Second, your reasoning that, since Zelda is mostly tied to Switch hardware sales(and it is), the game wont be able to catch up to Horizon is ridiculous.Given the attach rate the game has in relation to the Switch, assuming that the Switch sells about 10 millions by years end, and Zelda maintains a "modest" attach rate of 5 to 6 millions, thats 5 to 6 millions units sold on Switch alone.
I am forcing a bit with the attach rate, but Im just trying to prove that, given the games attach rate and the current performance of the Switch, saying that its wishful thinking that Zelda cant cover that "big" gap betwenn both titles is laughable and ridiculous.
My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.
https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1
| Maddadam said: It's a little bit funny (or sad), when a 30 years old brand, like Zelda has to fight with a totally new and unkown IP, like Horizon. You said, PS4 has a higher installed base, but Zelda has not ANY competitor because for Switch there isn't any other professional game. Zelda is the only chice for Swith. While Horizon has dozens or hundreds of competitors from exclusive games to multiplatforms. |
But there is onlz so much Switch consoles in the wild..... you cant sell more software than there is hardware(That actuallz happen in the US, and that just goes on to prove the strenght of the IP and of that game in particular, but I digress).BOTW was always going to be a title that was going to depend on its legs to reach big numbers.
My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.
https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1
| Maddadam said: It's a little bit funny (or sad), when a 30 years old brand, like Zelda has to fight with a totally new and unkown IP, like Horizon. You said, PS4 has a higher installed base, but Zelda has not ANY competitor because for Switch there isn't any other professional game. Zelda is the only chice for Swith. While Horizon has dozens or hundreds of competitors from exclusive games to multiplatforms. |
Not sad at all, shows how the right marketing and PR can sell a product. Same with Destiny, the right amount of PR and marketing along with good will from Halo made that the biggest New IP ever.
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