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Aura7541 on 09 April 2017
VGPolyglot said:
RolStoppable said:

You do realize that you are talking about religious fanatics that have abandoned reason, right? If the solution was this easy, then it would have already been implemented and worked like it did in Europe after World War II.

Actually, this is what the United States wanted. They supported the Islamization of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan as a way to combat the potential influence of Soviet Union, which as you probably know was an atheist state. That's what they implemented.

Causing Islamization is not equivalent to supporting Islamization. Actus non facit reum nisi mens sit rea. That isn't to say what the US did was not wrong.



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VGPolyglot on 09 April 2017
glimmer_of_hope said:
o_O.Q said:

why does israel need help?

OMG the reason Isreal even has a military, nukes, iron dome is thanks to america.

WRONG! It's because of France that they have nuclear weapons:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/15/truth-israels-secret-nuclear-arsenal



VGPolyglot on 09 April 2017
Aura7541 said:
VGPolyglot said:

Actually, this is what the United States wanted. They supported the Islamization of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan as a way to combat the potential influence of Soviet Union, which as you probably know was an atheist state. That's what they implemented.

Causing Islamization is not equivalent to supporting Islamization. Actus non facit reum nisi mens sit rea. That isn't to say what the US did was not wrong.

So, you think that the United States actually created Islamization?



Aura7541 on 09 April 2017
VGPolyglot said:
Aura7541 said:

Causing Islamization is not equivalent to supporting Islamization. Actus non facit reum nisi mens sit rea. That isn't to say what the US did was not wrong.

So, you think that the United States actually created Islamization?

What does that have to do with actus reus vs mens rea?



VGPolyglot on 09 April 2017
Aura7541 said:
VGPolyglot said:

So, you think that the United States actually created Islamization?

What does that have to do with actus reus vs mens rea?

The United States was more than aware of the situation. They were involved directly, like in the 1990s in the Gulf War when the Saudis gave them massive amounts of money in order to do their bidding. They are also selling weapons to the Saudis so they can attack the rebels in Yemen. They also gave Saudi Arabia hundreds of millions of dollars of aid in the 1970s.



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jason1637 on 09 April 2017
VGPolyglot said:
jason1637 said:
These type of things happen in the battlefield.

So that makes it okay?

No but the OP seems surprised that the media isn't covering it. If the Media covered a story everytime some civilian died because of war that would just be too much imo.



outlawauron on 09 April 2017

For every evil deed that goes uncovered, there are just as many good deeds that are ignored. It's the state of news and society. Innocent people dying in missile strikes on ISIS camps is something that people expect to happen. It's sadly just a footnote in the news.



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Eagle367 on 09 April 2017
RolStoppable said:
forest-spirit said:
It doesn't get any attention because A) It's more acceptable when the "good guys" kills innocent people, and B) according to the current rate 1,000 muslims = 1 westerners.

Really? I was thinking something along the lines of "it happened in a warzone, the civilians weren't the actual target and civilians becoming collateral damage in a war is very common."

Then why are Pakistanis killed by drone strikes in the hundreds? Pakistan is not a war zone.



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Eagle367 on 09 April 2017
glimmer_of_hope said:
Its collateral damage. The problem is that terrorists hide among and use civilians as shields. If we had boots on the ground people would be complaining of troops our dying! You just can't win in this scenario. What we should just do is defund the military and just let these people kill themselves right? Let the powers that be gas little babies right?
War is dirty and people die, that how it works. Life isn't like CoD.

So....there is a freaking thing called not interfering in other countries businesses. Murica has no placed there and shouldn't be in the middle east supporting rebels that are terrorists themselves and again why do they kill hundreds of people in Pakistan by drone when its not a war zone and terrorists rarely die in those attacks? Idiots saying collateral damage should be thrown into a damn war zone 



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Eagle367 on 09 April 2017
glimmer_of_hope said:
Soundwave said:

Maybe we should just get out of the Middle East. What good are we doing there? It's 2017 ... and the Taliban and Al Qaeda are still around after 16 years from 9/11. 

And US allies like Saudi Arabia are using phosphorous gas in Yemen ... zero outrage about that. 

There are terrible things happening in Africa and Asia and other places too, we don't go everywhere, this isn't a moral issue, we're in the Middle East because they have oil and gas. If they didn't, no one would give two shits. 

Nope we cant just leave the Middle East and have Isreal go at it alone. They are surrounded by Muslims that would invade every single day. I stopped caring after the word "oil" here we go again...........

Israel commits war crimes and breaks all sorts of international laws in Palestine every damn day so its the worlds biggest state terrorist supporting one of the worlds biggest war criminal with Saudi Arabia being a war criminal and US ally as well



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