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Goodnightmoon on 05 April 2017
Azuren said:
Goodnightmoon said:
Portability is not a gimmick, no matter how you look it.

But being a hybrid console is.

No is not, at all. Being an hybrid makes it the most flexible console ever, how is that a gimick? my laptop is not a gimmicky PC, why would be the switch a gimmicky console? The only reason why is called gimmicky is because is made by Nintendo, that's it.



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Goodnightmoon on 05 April 2017
pokoko said:
Trunkin said:

 

Yes, it is just a word. Words are used to express ideas or concepts. While words themselves don't really change, the ideas they represent do depending on the context, or simply just over the passage of time. The word "gimmick" used on gaming forums has primarily meant something along the lines of, "a feature that adds no useful functionality to a system's gaming capabilities, and which exists for the sole purpose of marketing or giving a console a unique appearance on the surface." It is absolutely used almost exclusively as an insult, and this isn't anything new. It's been consistently used this way for the past 10 years.

It's also pretty clear from his later posts that the OP means exactly that with his use of the word, so it looks like everyone is on the same page except you...

If by "same page" you mean becoming offended over a word that really isn't offensive then, trust me, I'm okay with not even being in the same chapter, much less on the same page.  Becoming all politically correct over a electronic device is just silly.  Businesses use gimmicks in marketing and advertising.  That's just the simple truth.

But you are always on the same page when it comes to make jabs at Nintendo and its fan, the thing that baffles me the most is how you believe nobody realizes of what you do when actually you always make it so damn obvious is hard not to see it. In this thread you are suggesting Nintendo fans have a ridiculous inferiority complex because they sometimes feel offended by a word that has been used on an offensive way for more than a decade, amazing.



specialk on 05 April 2017

Is online play a gimmick? Less than half of PlayStation users play games online.



Green098 on 05 April 2017
Azuren said:
Goodnightmoon said:
Portability is not a gimmick, no matter how you look it.

But being a hybrid console is.

Wait... What? Please tell me how you came to that conclusion, cause I have no idea how.



Goodnightmoon on 05 April 2017
Green098 said:
Azuren said:

But being a hybrid console is.

Wait... What? Please tell me how you came to that conclusion, cause I have no idea how.

Nintendo = Gimmick

Is as simple as that for many people.



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Cerebralbore101 on 05 April 2017
nemo37 said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

With 3-D mode off I've been able to get 8 hours of battery life out of my 3DS XL. That's a pretty big difference over the 3-6 hours that the Switch has.

http://bgr.com/2017/02/28/nintendo-switch-battery-life-comparison/

If you follow the link you can see that the Switch dies pretty quickly even when not playing games. So that's basically 3 hour battery life while playing games vs 4-8 hours for the 3DS.

Here is a battery test with the original 3DS and PS Vita ( http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-12-20-vita-beats-3ds-in-battery-life-test ). 3DS died after about two and a half hours and the Vita died in about 3 hours and fourty minutes. Having owned both the systems (and pretty much all of the 3DS revisions minus the regular sized New 3DS and 2DS) as well as the Switch, I can say that the battery life is in range. Stand-by time for Switch in my experience is about the same as the Vita and much better than the 3DS (the Vita and Switch can last weeks in stand-by without needing to be rechardged; whereas the 3DS usually dies within 2-4 days), and operational usage is much better than both the Vita and original 3DS (although it dies somewhat more quickly than my New 3DS XL, although when playing New 3DS exlusive games that boost the New 3DS's processor I notice that battery life comes closer to the Switch although New 3DS XL still beats it by a half hour or so; I do not have the regular 3DS XL anymore to compare it to).

The link that you provided does not do much to backup your point as the Switch outlasted the 3DS, New 3DS, 2DS, PS Vita, many of the older iPads and iPods, DS Lite, GBA M, GBA SP despite having much more powerful hardware (not surprising of course considering the SOC in the Switch is built on a newer fabrication process) . The Switch is pretty much on-par with the other portables with regards to battery life, in fact, it beats many of them.

That test was done with the 3DS at maximum brightness, volume, and 3D turned all the way up. Here's a better test. http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/feature/26166/3ds-battery-tests

Let's face it. The Switch lasts 3 hours playing Zelda, while the original 3DS model lasted 5 hours with Ocarina of Time. I think we can all agree that the Switch is due for a remodel that makes it cheaper to produce, more affordable, and better battery life.



Goodnightmoon on 05 April 2017
Cerebralbore101 said:
nemo37 said:

Here is a battery test with the original 3DS and PS Vita ( http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-12-20-vita-beats-3ds-in-battery-life-test ). 3DS died after about two and a half hours and the Vita died in about 3 hours and fourty minutes. Having owned both the systems (and pretty much all of the 3DS revisions minus the regular sized New 3DS and 2DS) as well as the Switch, I can say that the battery life is in range. Stand-by time for Switch in my experience is about the same as the Vita and much better than the 3DS (the Vita and Switch can last weeks in stand-by without needing to be rechardged; whereas the 3DS usually dies within 2-4 days), and operational usage is much better than both the Vita and original 3DS (although it dies somewhat more quickly than my New 3DS XL, although when playing New 3DS exlusive games that boost the New 3DS's processor I notice that battery life comes closer to the Switch although New 3DS XL still beats it by a half hour or so; I do not have the regular 3DS XL anymore to compare it to).

The link that you provided does not do much to backup your point as the Switch outlasted the 3DS, New 3DS, 2DS, PS Vita, many of the older iPads and iPods, DS Lite, GBA M, GBA SP despite having much more powerful hardware (not surprising of course considering the SOC in the Switch is built on a newer fabrication process) . The Switch is pretty much on-par with the other portables with regards to battery life, in fact, it beats many of them.

That test was done with the 3DS at maximum brightness, volume, and 3D turned all the way up. Here's a better test. http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/feature/26166/3ds-battery-tests

Let's face it. The Switch lasts 3 hours playing Zelda, while the original 3DS model lasted 5 hours with Ocarina of Time. I think we can all agree that the Switch is due for a remodel that makes it cheaper to produce, more affordable, and better battery life.

3 hours with the most demanding game of the console, it last more with others, PSVita lasts around 2 hours with some games, 3DS also had around 3 hours of battery with some games, that doesn't mean its their standar battery life, some games consume more than others. 



zorg1000 on 05 April 2017
Cerebralbore101 said:
nemo37 said:

Here is a battery test with the original 3DS and PS Vita ( http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-12-20-vita-beats-3ds-in-battery-life-test ). 3DS died after about two and a half hours and the Vita died in about 3 hours and fourty minutes. Having owned both the systems (and pretty much all of the 3DS revisions minus the regular sized New 3DS and 2DS) as well as the Switch, I can say that the battery life is in range. Stand-by time for Switch in my experience is about the same as the Vita and much better than the 3DS (the Vita and Switch can last weeks in stand-by without needing to be rechardged; whereas the 3DS usually dies within 2-4 days), and operational usage is much better than both the Vita and original 3DS (although it dies somewhat more quickly than my New 3DS XL, although when playing New 3DS exlusive games that boost the New 3DS's processor I notice that battery life comes closer to the Switch although New 3DS XL still beats it by a half hour or so; I do not have the regular 3DS XL anymore to compare it to).

The link that you provided does not do much to backup your point as the Switch outlasted the 3DS, New 3DS, 2DS, PS Vita, many of the older iPads and iPods, DS Lite, GBA M, GBA SP despite having much more powerful hardware (not surprising of course considering the SOC in the Switch is built on a newer fabrication process) . The Switch is pretty much on-par with the other portables with regards to battery life, in fact, it beats many of them.

That test was done with the 3DS at maximum brightness, volume, and 3D turned all the way up. Here's a better test. http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/feature/26166/3ds-battery-tests

Let's face it. The Switch lasts 3 hours playing Zelda, while the original 3DS model lasted 5 hours with Ocarina of Time. I think we can all agree that the Switch is due for a remodel that makes it cheaper to produce, more affordable, and better battery life.

So 3DS getting 5 hours out of a 13 year old port is more impressive? Sure, makes sense.



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Cerebralbore101 on 05 April 2017
zorg1000 said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

That test was done with the 3DS at maximum brightness, volume, and 3D turned all the way up. Here's a better test. http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/feature/26166/3ds-battery-tests

Let's face it. The Switch lasts 3 hours playing Zelda, while the original 3DS model lasted 5 hours with Ocarina of Time. I think we can all agree that the Switch is due for a remodel that makes it cheaper to produce, more affordable, and better battery life.

So 3DS getting 5 hours out of a 13 year old port is more impressive? Sure, makes sense.

The OoT remake is about as demanding as any other 3DS game.



specialk on 05 April 2017

I took the Switch on a trip for the first time a few days ago. Never had an issue with battery.

It's a new time. Airports have wall to wall charging stations. Many planes have chargers. Nearly every late model car has USB. And people bought portable chargers to play Pokemon Go, I'm sure they'll have no problem doing the same for Switch if it really becomes necessary.