A pro priced at $349, a og PS4 priced at $249 with a shit ton of content is gonna make it hard for Scrorpio to compete wth PS4 despite a power gap.

Your parts point is very true. That's why they didn't opt for a new GPU, either. Instead they use two overclocked PS4 GPUs running in sync.  It means they were probably making a profit on HW at launch, and like you said, allows for aggressive price cuts. No matter what the Scorpio's price point is, we are going to see at least a $50 cut.  However, I think if MS can get it out at $399, we're going to see Sony do that aggressive cut to $299.  That's just too big of a price difference to ignore.  This may also come with a Pro Slim to decrease prices even more. And I think at that price, the Pro is going to start making up 20+% of all PS4s sold.  Probably 30+% when it hits $249.

And people praised the Switch's power. The problem is they are comparing it relative to its competitors.  Is Switch powerful? Hell no. Well, unless you just compare it to other mobile devices.  Is Scorpio incredibly powerful? When compared to PCs, no. But to other consoles, yes.  

And this will most likely be using a Jaguar or Puma, with a RX480.  Unless you want this thing costing $499+, which is a death knell with a $299-$349 Pro.  Remember, MS keep saying this is an upgrade with no exclusives. They aren't even doing VR anymore.  You honestly think they are going to put that kinda tech, which drives up the price, for a system with no exclusives? Come on, now.

They are still doing VR, mixed reality is coming to the Scorpio and the jaquar prob. would do a rubish job concidering how games run on steam it requires quite a good processor, puma is a slight improvement but only 10% or so over the jaquar, obv it depends on the actual speed in this scenario, ryzen however is more then a doubling in cpu effeciency over the jaquar so that WOULD be ideal for mixed reality/VR

Obv. the PC will always be king and the Scorpio would more likely use the RX580 and not the RX480, the difference is the redesign and less heat production the ps4 pro slim, if the rumours are true will also be based on the polaris refresh thats coming out this year.

I don't know what to expect but I do know Microsoft doesn't want to make the same mistake sony did and have bottlenecks, obv sony's design does a good job of 4k checkerboarding and thats what its designed for but as dice and many other developers have stated, native is ALWAYS easier and doesn't require any work where in checkerboarding does require quite a bit of work.

The RAM will go a long way but the CPU has to be better, I don't care what they use but it has to be.

Definitely. If Xbox fans think a 40% more powerful XBO (in comparison to the Pro), with no exclusives, is all MS needs to change things in EU and Japan, they have a rude awakening coming.  PS is a WW brand, where Xbox is only relevant in a handful of countries.

Do you think the different memory setup is going to cause problems for the Scorpio running XBO games? Is that going to be something that needs to be patched?

Problem here is Sony has become the pacemaker for the gen. They set the launch, mid gen update and now they are already a year into getting ready for the ps5. I. E 3 years for OG, 3 years for MG, then launch the next gen.

MS have forced themselves into a corner for several reasons :

1) for almost three gens they have proven they lack exclusive content compared to Sony. They only make an effort at the beginning and then start to lose steam. They will essentially be releasing Scorpio when Sony exclusives have hit their stride. We are looking at Yakuza Kiwami, GT6, GOW, FF7 R, Day's Gone, Spiderman and Shenmue all releasing within a year from Scorpio with showing S and launches on either side of it, from E3 to E3.

2) when the Scorpio comes out, it might only have two years on the market before Sony launch a PS5 and it might be only 1.5yrs before they announce it.
In going on a theory they will have 6 year gens from now due to rapid technology advances, deals with AMD and betting able to adapt tech quicker rather once every 6-7 years.

3) they will struggle to fight Sony on price.

4) if they launch a next gen Xbox at the sametime as Sony, they will essentially screw over those who bought Scorpio by only giving that crowd 2yrs or less. If they give them 3 years ,their competitor will have a years headstart.

I'm not sure what MS could have done here instead of launching a Scorpio. Maybe being a year behind they could have just waited it out. I still believe Scorpio was a panic move on two fronts:

1) not being able to compete with 2 more powerful ps4s and

2) not having the hardware to have VR support via third party as they didn't have their own VR set.

Problem is, if the Scorpio don't do well, I can see the Xbox division having even less resources from HQ for the next time.

This E 3 should paint a good picture for the future of Xbox. If the games still aren't there outside of Halo, Forza and Gears, I will be seriously concerned. Phil really needs to bring back:

1) otogi
2) jade empire
3) perfect dark
4) a proper Banjo Game

They should have strengthened their relationship with Sega and kept it sweet instead of letting it dither away.

When you are not doing so well, release new more powerful console. That is exactly how Sega lost the game, while Nitendo and Sony focused on supporting their existing systems and, most importantly, games. Even with higher spec, if MS can't match it's price with PS4 Pro, which most certainly they can't, Sony has nothing to worry about MS taking sales away. In fact, MS officially mentioned that Scorpio isn't meant to compete with PS4.

Sony isn't going to do much different, they will just dell as much PS4's as possible to 2020. Since the PS4 obviously has plenty of sales and hardware/software potential. Once they sold around 110 million in 2020 they kick off a new gen with the PS5. Microsoft will launch a new Xbox and hopefully that gen will be more intresting saleswise.

i mean literally none of those things are necessary, Sony can just keep doing what they are doing and will outsell XBO/Scorpio.

Yeah, maybe Microsoft can start to gain some ground in US/UK but globally PS4 is going to dominate XBO no matter what.