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contestgamer said:

wow, what the heck did a pirate ever do to you? Calm down. Piracy saves people a ton of money, they can play a bunch of games they couldnt otherwise afford. Cut em some slack.

I don't mind supporting a company with money that I enjoy playing their games.  I won't bend over backwards for them though and usually wait for price drops before getting it new off Amazon.  I consider people who pirate cheap bastards.



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SvennoJ said:
OdinHades said:

I don't know too much about cemu, I haven't ever used it. But on PCSX2, I always just pop in original PS2 games and play them that way.

But even if you have to rip a game, that is not automatically illegal. There are dozens of countries where something like that would be perfectly legal. In germany it's legal if you are not bypassing any functional security measures (although until this very day nobody knows what the heck "functional" does exactly mean in this context, lulz). In other countries, you can make up to 5 legal copies. And like I said, local law always stands above what the manufacturer says.

Did you copy the bios from your ps2 yourself? Or download it from the internet?

Dumped it myself on my beatiful modded PS2 which I also used to run Linux! I also dumped the Bios of my GBA myself. I know that stuff quite well, I even was a developer for PSP homebrew back in the day. I'm just a little out of touch in the last few years, because my son was born in 2012 and since then I simply don't have the time to actively follow the scene. I pretty much don't have time for anything anymore, lol. Didn't stop me from modding both 3DS and Vita but so far I didn't have direct contact with cemu. But I can't imagine it's that much different from the old days. If you want, you can play games legally on an emulator. Probably most users don't do that. But it's just silly to condemn each and every user just because of that. Damn piracy all you want, but homebrew and emulators are awesome, have always been awesome and will always be awesome. That's really all I wanna say.



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contestgamer said:
Tryklon said:

Like I said, I am tottaly in favor of emulation of older discontinued systems. The games should live on and be played forever.
But not emulation of newly released games and systems, this is just a glorification of piracy, and those here who defend otherwise are just insulting their own intelligence, let alone the others. 99,999999% of the emulator users DO NOT own a copy of the game!

Again, emulating abandoned systems and games is acceptable, they should live on, emulating new games is piracy and should have legal consequences! I just hope Nintendo is acting against those people.

wow, what the heck did a pirate ever do to you? Calm down. Piracy saves people a ton of money, they can play a bunch of games they couldnt otherwise afford. Cut em some slack.

Could just as well say, what did tax evasion ever do to you? People that evade taxes save a ton of money, and they can enjoy it on a lot of stuff they couldn't otherwise afford. Yet they do make taxes worse for people overall.

Software I've worked on did get pirated. Result not only loss of income, also anti piracy measures that were a pita during development and slowed down the software somewhat due to working with encrypted data. Nvm inconveniencing legitimate customers.

It's simple if everyone pirated software / evaded taxes the industry / society would collapse. Why should legitimate buyers subsidize pirates?



OdinHades said:
SvennoJ said:

Did you copy the bios from your ps2 yourself? Or download it from the internet?

Dumped it myself on my beatiful modded PS2 which I also used to run Linux! I also dumped the Bios of my GBA myself. I know that stuff quite well, I even was a developer for PSP homebrew back in the day. I'm just a little out of touch in the last few years, because my son was born in 2012 and since then I simply don't have the time to actively follow the scene. I pretty much don't have time for anything anymore, lol. Didn't stop me from modding both 3DS and Vita but so far I didn't have direct contact with cemu. But I can't imagine it's that much different from the old days. If you want, you can play games legally on an emulator. Probably most users don't do that. But it's just silly to condemn each and every user just because of that. Damn piracy all you want, but homebrew and emulators are awesome, have always been awesome and will always be awesome. That's really all I wanna say.

Respect. I wanted to try out pscx but was too lazy to dump the bios so just played on the ps2 to satisfy my nostalgia. After kids you kinda re-evaluate your time, better spend playing instead of tinkering and modding. The only emulator I've actually tried out was MAME, probably not legal either, not that you can find those arcade cabinets anymore. And Dos box, I guess that technically an emulator as well.

Anyway after playing Zelda on the Switch I wouldn't want it in an emulator anyway.



sethnintendo said:
contestgamer said:

wow, what the heck did a pirate ever do to you? Calm down. Piracy saves people a ton of money, they can play a bunch of games they couldnt otherwise afford. Cut em some slack.

I don't mind supporting a company with money that I enjoy playing their games.  I won't bend over backwards for them though and usually wait for price drops before getting it new off Amazon.  I consider people who pirate cheap bastards.

Some people cant afford it. In the US minimum wage is like $7 and in most of the rest of the world its a couple of dollars a day



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SvennoJ said:
contestgamer said:

wow, what the heck did a pirate ever do to you? Calm down. Piracy saves people a ton of money, they can play a bunch of games they couldnt otherwise afford. Cut em some slack.

Could just as well say, what did tax evasion ever do to you? People that evade taxes save a ton of money, and they can enjoy it on a lot of stuff they couldn't otherwise afford. Yet they do make taxes worse for people overall.

Software I've worked on did get pirated. Result not only loss of income, also anti piracy measures that were a pita during development and slowed down the software somewhat due to working with encrypted data. Nvm inconveniencing legitimate customers.

It's simple if everyone pirated software / evaded taxes the industry / society would collapse. Why should legitimate buyers subsidize pirates?

A lot of people either cant afford games or would rather spend it on other stuff. There are enough people that are willing to buy games to subside those people, as long as game companies break even or make a slight profit it's not a big deal. Yeah in theory if everyone did it it'd be a problem, but that wont ever happen. These games are still making profits.



zero129 said:
Tryklon said:

I have nothing against that statement, but the desperation shown daily about BoTW performance in CEMU tells a different story, a story about players who are avidly waiting to play a game which is exclusive to another system. And that my friend, is just sad, especially since the PC has a "plethora" of so many good games...

 

I'm simpathetic, like I said, so much hardware, and no BoTW or HZD or Persona 5.... basicaly, no top games

Persona 5 is about as playable in RPCS3 (The PS3 Emu) as BOTW is in Cemu atm.

So looks like Persona 5 will be playable on PC in the not so distant future .

People do use emus to play legit games. Just as people do buy consoles also to play pirate games. In the end it comes down to the person and how they feel about piracy.

I own BOTW on wiiu but i cant wait to play it on my PC in a much higher res then its original system allowed. Being a PC gamer doesnt mean you dont also own consoles. Being able to reply them console games on your Pc looking better then they originally did is a pretty big bonus for the people that is also console gamers and into emulation. But hey not everyone on PC is into emus as PC has its own wealth of games that millions of users seem to enjoy very much.

But hey good job trying to twist the thread into your logic of "PC has no games so must use emus" when in fact emulation is a very very tiny part of the PC User base.

Why don't you buy a Switch then if you want to play it in higher res. The option is there already.



contestgamer said:
SvennoJ said:

Could just as well say, what did tax evasion ever do to you? People that evade taxes save a ton of money, and they can enjoy it on a lot of stuff they couldn't otherwise afford. Yet they do make taxes worse for people overall.

Software I've worked on did get pirated. Result not only loss of income, also anti piracy measures that were a pita during development and slowed down the software somewhat due to working with encrypted data. Nvm inconveniencing legitimate customers.

It's simple if everyone pirated software / evaded taxes the industry / society would collapse. Why should legitimate buyers subsidize pirates?

A lot of people either cant afford games or would rather spend it on other stuff. There are enough people that are willing to buy games to subside those people, as long as game companies break even or make a slight profit it's not a big deal. Yeah in theory if everyone did it it'd be a problem, but that wont ever happen. These games are still making profits.

Yet many game studios have closed in recent years. Not all games are still making profits. It's just a poor excuse and pirates are nothing but mooches. They're no better than people abusing the welfare system. But luckily they're enough people willing to pay taxes to cover for them, so not a big deal, right?



All I got to say on this topic is, I have my new sealed copy of Zelda BotW. Maybe I will download a copy and play it in 4K and after a few years, sell the unopened, totally-legal bought copy, for a stupidly high price in Ebay.



                          

"We all make choices, but in the end, our choices make us" - Andrew Ryan, Bioshock.

zero129 said:
SvennoJ said:

Why don't you buy a Switch then if you want to play it in higher res. The option is there already.

I will be buying a Switch at some point anyways but not for zelda since ill already of finished my wiiu version and then finished it the 2nd time on my PC in a much higher res then even the Switch version.

So you admit Cemu is responsible for at least one lost sale of a Switch version of Botw ;)