It's really a tough choice if you don't give a crap about JRPGs, then your list is just a bunch of shooters.

That's EXACTLY my point...

Microsoft priced their hardware way too high (100$ too high to be exact) and no matter the reason you want to put on that...
Maybe (but just maybe) the inclusion of Kinect was the reason... Maybe it was them being way too confident after the 360 success... Maybe something else...

At the end, that's why (in my oppinion) Sony got the head start and is now ahead after the domino effect for the whole generation.

The 28.7M (the path it took) vs 56M shows exactly that. Microsoft lost it because of the price point and now the domino effect is unstoppable; more players already own the Play Station Four and for the same price new comers will go with the most "popular" one. If you want to think it is because of the "incredible" values of the Play Station Four; fine but that's your oppinion. At the same starting price point it would have a been a completly different story in my oppinon...

Dont' forget platformers.

We'll I gave my reasons why, and you had issues with it.  That's all you.

I do not have issues with your reason. I had issues when you asked me to tell you why Microsoft priced their hardware 100$ more than Sony like it made any difference on the thread topic... That was not relevant in my oppinion

And to be honest; I do not think we could agree on the reasons (or at least our guesses :))

I first expounded on why the price difference was an issue before the mentioning of any mathematical difference.  And you and anyone else has the right to disagree, but you kept skirting my question.  Either you just didn't know or answering it would not have put Microsoft is such a favorable light.  At least my reasoning were based from facts and history (EVERY Xbox One unit bundled with Kinect at launch - no other option, Microsoft claiming Kinect was "essential" - lies, Kinect unbundled and overcharged - cost more to the consumer when buying both a standalone Kinect and standalone Xbox One, multiplatform games running better on the PS4 over the Xbox One - better value on PS4 for game performance, etc.)

Xbox One and Wii U happened.

The PS3 era wasn't a carastrophe, not even remotely. ps3 sold 86 million and psp 80 million, that's a big success by anybodies reckoning. Some people my try to paint the picture that this is an amazing turnaround from last gen to ps4 but truthfully the playstation brand has always been sucessful even during it's so called "lean" years.

Yet again you just do it again. You are talking about puting Microsoft in bad or good light when this is not about it. You have this agenda, I do not. And you are right about one thing, I'm not interrested into having this disucssion. I responded to this thread to talk about why, in my oppinion, Sony got the best start this generation not to start a rent or arguing about how you believe Microsoft methods and marketing are lies, bulshitt and how much your Play Station Four is a better value for you and blah blah.

My anwser was super simple and you can argue with me that consumers did not only care about the price but also about something else in Sony's offering (and it would be on topic) ... But no, instead you are arguing with me and try to tell me how much you think Microsoft is lying, bullshiting, offering lower values, all of this subjective things this thread is NOT about.

Having the best product kinda drives sales. It's good for business you know? Xbox gave up this gen with the unveiling of their console, even before the gen had started in earnest. Nintendo just fell flat on their face right out of the gate. Succeeding during those cercuimstances isn't all that hard. Your product doesn't even have to be great, just better than everyone elses.