monocle_layton said:
If you live in the twin cities, they do a great job of removing snow.
Thankfully, public transportation is also good as well |
I suppose they better have good snow removal equipment and services. I still didn't ride a bike much in Ohio during the winter months to my knowledge when I grew up.
barneystinson69 said:
Doesn't make a difference. At the end of the day, the demographic chart says it all. Import lots of immigrants, and they'll retire eventually. You still won't have enough kids, as the birth rate is below 2.1, so you need more immigration. Then the process starts to balloon... |
Also, you dont want to import people who dont work, they will just be dependant on the goverment and make things worse a lot quicker than the low birth rate. They have more kids so even more dependnts. This is why we have a screening proces, to integrate people who are benefitial and reject the burden.
It takes genuine talent to see greatness in yourself despite your absence of genuine talent.
Its hilarious how progressive have bought into a neoliberal idea of market growth and more immigrants = more growth.
Why not create a society that can sustain what it is has enviironmentally first.
KingCherry said:
Which is all the more reason to try and prevent Mass Third World migration into Disney Eurocities. I find the US obsession with the utter crapfest that is Hip-Hop, alongside Crime and violence, utterly depressing. People don't mix on the whole, as is proven throughout the World where immigrants arrive in large numbers. Black areas, Asian areas, etc.. People like their own people, it's human nature. US Black and Hispanic culture seems primitive, divisive and over-bearing to me, and most others I speak to. Who in their right mind would want to import that kind of future for themselves or their kids? Portable ghettos full of disenfranchised people with an axe to grind, whom you have zero in common with. Why would you want that? |
African American community is still dealing with the fallout from slavery and repression for over a 100+ years and the influx of drugs flooding their communities and systemic racism.
Many ethnicities work out just fine in the US ... Indian Americans (as in immigrants from India) for example are the highest achieving ethnic group in the US, they earn the most per household in the country:
http://blogs.voanews.com/all-about-america/2015/05/08/this-us-ethnic-group-makes-the-most-money/
I also read like something like 7/9 of the top high school prodigies in the US, the one's with the highest grades are Indian American. Asian Americans are also likewise performing way above other Americans in terms of household income and education. These kids are going to be a big part of the reason why America stays competetive/above Europe in many ways.
Here's a Forbes article, 83% of the Intel Science Search (generally speaking the smartest of the smart kids in America) in the US are children of immigrants ....
So this is a two way street.
Canada is very multicultural too and I would rate it above Europe for "safety". In a general sense all of Canada, US, Europe are generally safe. Comes to down to country planning IMO, some countries don't do it very well.
Canada unlike Europe took in a diverse group of immigrants, not millions of poor migrants.
| LadyJasmine said: Canada unlike Europe took in a diverse group of immigrants, not millions of poor migrants. |
Most immigrants to Canada are still poor when they get here. The majority of those people coming from India, China, the Philiphines, Eastern Europe, the Middle East, etc. don't come to Canada rich. But the immigrants in Canada I see generally are willing to work hard and work their way up the ladder ... I don't know if that's because of the screening process or something within the Canadian culture that filters down or what.
Soundwave said:
Most immigrants to Canada are still poor when they get here. The majority of those people coming from India, China, the Philiphines, Eastern Europe, the Middle East, etc. don't come to Canada rich. But the immigrants in Canada I see generally are willing to work hard and work their way up the ladder ... I don't know if that's because of the screening process or something within the Canadian culture that filters down or what. |
There is a differencebetween being poor and coming to a country legally and coming poor and coming into a country illegally.
Through legal immigration you can run checks on people and select the flow of immigration and ensure a diversity of immigration.
The problem with Europe is that it has mostly taken massive flows from one area or culture and thrown most of them into ghettos.
LadyJasmine said:
There is a differencebetween being poor and coming to a country legally and coming poor and coming into a country illegally. Through legal immigration you can run checks on people and select the flow of immigration and ensure a diversity of immigration.
The problem with Europe is that it has mostly taken massive flows from one area or culture and thrown most of them into ghettos. |
Still, most of the Canadian immigrants come from mostly the same couple of countries (India, China, Philliphines).
Even in Europe, I mean lol, it's not like any area is like "omg! I'm terrified here!". They need better integration, but Europe is still very safe. I've travelled to a lot of countries and always felt like I could beat the shit out of anyone in Europe who thought of doing something stupid. I've been out 1-3 AM on supposed "busy" streets in big European cities and never once felt even an ioata of intimidation from anyone.
| monocle_layton said: For a while, we have seen some...passionate people say we should get rid of immigrants and stop integration. After all, they're responsible for the issues we see in Europe, right? Well, it's a yes and no. I certainly will not doubt that some immigrants/refugees aren't perfect (that is human nature). Unfortunately, some of them take advantage of welfare systems or try to abuse their freedom to restrict the freedom of others. However, it seems like people think we only have the options to accept all of them or deport them all. We don't need any of that. Just looking at Minnesota and we see very similar problems: 1. Stagnant economy 2. High amounts of immigrants. 3. Had issues with labor force. 4. Minimum wage was not suitable for many. http://tcbmag.com/News/Recent-News/2017/February/How-Minnesota-s-Success-Is-Dependent-On-Immigrants http://www.cnbc.com/2015/06/24/biggest-state-economic-turnaround-story-minnesota.html These articles showed that the state I live in wasn't exactly the most gorgeous place for the past five years. With a very high amount of Somalis too, I am sure many people probably thought Minnesota will turn into a wasteland. Thankfully, the opposite happened. So, what gives? They went from having a several billion dollar deficit to having one of the fastest growing economies in the US. Higher taxes (with big increases on the rich)? We benefited! Unlike the poor regions of other major cities, you won't have to worry about being shot in the poor regions of the Twin Cities. We have many things such as constantly improved roads, which are vital for a very snowy/rainy state. We are also one of the happiest and kindest states. Minnesota also features a lot in terms of scenery, with 10,000 lakes and unbelievably gorgeous forests. We are always overlooked, and I wonder why? We turned ourselves around, and yet it seems like some people believe their agendas will magically turn Europe into a powerhouse. We have a Somali population of around 80k, many of them refugees. You know how bad the terrorism issue is? Only 1 mass stabbing occurred in St. Cloud, and one incident of around 20 men plotting to join ISIS have happened in the past several years. Why do we have little problems with highly religious people? The answer is rather simple- we carefully admit refugees. You gain nothing from denying immigrants and refugees- after all, us Minnesotans can thank them for increasing our diversity and economy. Managing immigrants/refugees who enter is what makes problems or solutions. I think the extremists who go as far as to say we should kick out all non-natives are really taking it too far (along with those who call for completely open borders). Both of those are unnecessary- simply taking better control around this issue will prevent these things from happening.
Minnesota wasn't a perfect state not too long ago- in the span of a few years though, the improvements have turned it into a top 10 state easily. Eco friendly, politically moderate, lack of police issues, and so many more good things (such as): 1. 1.7 people killed per 100,000, 7th lowest in country 2. One of the fastest growing economies 3. Many religious communities throughout the cities. 4. Support for bikers and those who don't use cars. 5. Decent population density (not too high or low) 6. Lack of issues with immigrants. 7. Good public schools.
I can go on, but i am not trying to turn into an advertiser for trips to Minnesota :P I am also not trying to bash anyone for having a certain opinion- I gain nothing from insulting someone or acting superior. I just thought it's worth having people taking a look at Minnesota's revival, especially for those who are conservative. If immigrants in Europe had as little issues as in Minnesota, will they still dislike them?
Edit: I know I said I don't wanna sound like self advertisement, but let me just tell you that Minnesota is simply badass. I will probably never find a state better than it. Simply put, the current condition it is in has simply allowed so many people to finally live happy lives. I am really appreciative of Minnesota's effort to turn the state into something greater. I hope any state struggling bounces back up as well as MN. |
I have another example here: Luxembourg, hy home country.
Half of the inhabitants are immigrants (mostly from portugal, but with an increasing part of eastern europeans and north africans/middle easterns). before the 1950s, Luxembourg was a pretty poor country with net emigration (many to the US) and just a handful of foreigners. Since then we have become a country full of diverse cultures... and become one of the 5 richest countries in the world per capita
Bofferbrauer said:
I have another example here: Luxembourg, hy home country. Half of the inhabitants are immigrants (mostly from portugal, but with an increasing part of eastern europeans and north africans/middle easterns). before the 1950s, Luxembourg was a pretty poor country with net emigration (many to the US) and just a handful of foreigners. Since then we have become a country full of diverse cultures... and become one of the 5 richest countries in the world per capita |
Bofferbrauer said:
I have another example here: Luxembourg, hy home country. Half of the inhabitants are immigrants (mostly from portugal, but with an increasing part of eastern europeans and north africans/middle easterns). before the 1950s, Luxembourg was a pretty poor country with net emigration (many to the US) and just a handful of foreigners. Since then we have become a country full of diverse cultures... and become one of the 5 richest countries in the world per capita |
Is it worth visiting? I may go to Switzerland and another European country one day
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