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Forums - Sales - Horizon Zero Dawn beats Zelda to No.1 in UK ( PS4’s biggest ever new IP launch)

bananaking21 said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Doesn't say that. Say's PS4's biggest new IP launch. So either the author of the article is lying, or it beat Destiny's PS4 sales.

dude

Horizon is Sony's biggest new franchise launch on PS4 - a title previously held by No Man's Sky. It's also the biggest PS4 launch in general since Uncharted 4.

 

Destiny had the same launch as UC4. 

"It’s Sony’s PS4 exclusive Horizon Zero Dawn that grabs the crown, beating Nintendo’s adventure title by a comfortable margin and becoming PS4’s biggest ever new IP launch in the process."



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vivster said:
Ka-pi96 said:

People that don't already have a console that can play the 1 Switch game worth buying?

You mean the gigantic Zelda fandom that bought the Wii but not the Wii U?

I'm one of those people!



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RolStoppable said:
Solid numbers for Switch and Zelda. What needs to not be forgotten is that Switch is the first global day and date hardware launch in video game history and that the 2m forecasted units are for the whole of March. We've got no news about Nintendo flying in stock; the conventional method of shipping has new stock arriving every two to three weeks, so there's going to be additional stock in March. In other words, if the worldwide launch week numbers don't add up to close to 2m, then that has to be expected because there were not 2m units in the channel. There should have been a good million out there, so an initial allocation of ~80k units for the UK is reasonable if you extrapolate it to a global level and take into account that the UK has been proportionally Nintendo's weakest market in recent years.

Acting amazed or surprised that Horizon: Zero Dawn beat Zelda in the UK is on the same level as being amazed or surprised when this week's Media Create numbers show that Zelda beat Horizon in Japan. You are either disingenious or ignorant of sales trends.

Gotta agree with this especially the bolded part....... I am begining to agree with some things you say. I find that very unsettling.

To add; there really is no contest. There are like what, 4.5-5M PS4s sold in the UK as of today? Like are people kidding me? Even if nintendo somehow managed o get 500k NS consoles into the UK for launch horizon should still outsell zelda. 



radishhead said:
vivster said:

You mean the gigantic Zelda fandom that bought the Wii but not the Wii U?

I'm one of those people!

You call yourself a Zelda fan and did not buy Hyrule Warriors? Sounds fishy to me.



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vivster said:
radishhead said:

I'm one of those people!

You call yourself a Zelda fan and did not buy Hyrule Warriors? Sounds fishy to me.

It's not the sort of Zelda game I was looking for :(



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vivster said:
radishhead said:

I'm one of those people!

You call yourself a Zelda fan and did not buy Hyrule Warriors? Sounds fishy to me.

WindWaker HD, Twilight Princess HD, Hyrule Warriors AND the promise of a New WiiU Zelda title in 2015! How could a true zelda fan not purchase such a device. Smells fishy too.



Not surprising considering the Wii U and Switch UK userbase combined is under 1 million while the PS4 has a userbase of over 5 million. Regardless, congrats to them for a strong new IP launch.



Peh said:
naruball said:

You saying that they don't hold, doesn't magically make them so. That's not how an argument works.

1. Again with the number of swiches sold. Nice. 4th time in a row and has nothing to do with my point. Didn't say that everyone likes Zelda, hence the "most likely" part. Feel free to pay closer attention next time.

2. Several AAA and non AAA exlusives came out. Ps4 owners have backlogs that Switch owners don't since this is the very begining of the console. As for the rest of your point, I'm not sure what you're trying to say. It's not phrased well.

They don't hold because I already stated why. You still havn't showed me a valid argument why I should think otherwise.

Again, you say Zelda has Zero competition, yet ignore the fact that people make lots of comparisions between those 2 games even on this board. Second, there is only a limited number of Switch Units available for people to actually buy the game as I already stated to you, which you still don't get why Horizon sold better than Zelda. If there were twice as more Switch units available for the UK at launch, guess which game would be on top. And like I said, we don't know the certain numbers of software sold. But I doubt that it is higher than 120k.  Again, even if PS4 has thousands or even millions of other options, this is just in favour for my argument. Because as I said, the attach rate could be around 1,8 % depending of how many software were sold. Thus more than 90 % of PS4 gamers didn't care about Horizon Zero Dawn or bought something else.

We got an attach rate of 78% vs less than 10%? So, what are you trying to sell me?

Not trying to sell you anything. I'm not in that business. But if you are, good luck with your business.

"If there were twice as more Switch units available for the UK at launch, guess which game would be on top"

I don't and neither do you.

"Again, even if PS4 has thousands or even millions of other options, this is just in favour for my argument"

It is not. Ps4 owners can buy one of the many games avaialble for it (especially these two past months with all the critical acclaimed games that have come out and must have cost ps4 owners a pretty penny). Switch owners don't have anywhere near as many options. They bought the system and they need a game for it. Since the rest of the lineup is not very impressive, it's the game most will buy. Ps4 owners can buy Horizon much later, knowing damn well that it will get a price cut in a few weeks/months unlike most Ninty games.

"We got an attach rate of 78% vs less than 10%?"

Yeah, remember that game that came out 3 years after a console launched and had an attach ratio of 78%? Me neither. The comparison is ridiculous no matter how you put it.

Zelda doing well on Switch can only be compared to something like Uncharted Golden Abyss, the psv game that topped the UK chart when it launched, since, despite the fact that there were a few other vita titles available at launch, it was THE game to own with the handheld. Big launch games have incredibly high attach rates; nothing new here.



Ka-pi96 said:
BraLoD said:

As Ka-pi said, if the info doesn't match, it's the author fault, because he says that "...becoming PS4’s biggest ever new IP launch in the process."
He is not making any kind of distinction here, while is he is doing for it on other pieces of the article.

As far as I can tell BK's bit doesn't even come from the article though. So unless he has another one somewhere?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-03-06-horizon-zero-dawn-is-sonys-biggest-ps4-franchise-debut

 

my source. 

 

i am also looking for where i saw Destiny numbers for its first week. cant seem to find it. 

 

edit:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=231560482&postcount=66

 

here, UC4 = Destiny

the original article probably forgot to mention that its the biggest new IP launch from Sony, not in general. 



bananaking21 said:

i am also looking for where i saw Destiny numbers for its first week. cant seem to find it. 

The only info I can find on Destiny+UC4 numbers is Destiny was the best selling new IP in the UK on ps4 (also from the same source as the article in OP of this thread.)

And Uncharted 4 sold 66% more copies at launch in the UK than Uncharted 3.

No official numbers for either, also I am unsure if MCVUK track digital or not?