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freebs2 said:
StreaK said:

LOL DUDE, YOU are embarrassing. Did you honestly just make that comment??? LMFAO! And you're gonna state that I am embrrassing myself? Don't waste yourself, pleaseeee.

Uncharted has NOWHERE near the level of nostalgia-factor that Zelda's 20+ years in the industry has earned. Zelda has been around almost since gaming has been reborn with the NES and has been on over 6 different consoles. Uncharted has only just come out in 2007 and has been on 2 consoles and by far and away does not even come close to getting nostalgia status. Do you even know what nostalgia means???

It means the more years pass after a game is released the more nostalgia grows, the more people are anticipating a sequel. An example of this works is Duke Nukem Forever, the game has been waited by fans for a very long time and it received a lot of praise for it once released. Am I getting it right?

But I don't understand why you care about  someone downplaying UC4 scores, after all reviews are "nothing more than a means to promote a game".

BINGO!!! :D

But yeah, you're right! I'm kind of compulsive with this kind of ***t to be honest! It's like, I know I shouldn't care about it but then I see those numbers and the differences staring at me in the face and I just cannot help but to highlight this. 

But you are indeed right, I should just let it go. I know, for me personally, that Horizon is a work of art that should get every high praise that it DID get from noteworthy critics. And thank god for that. These developers at GG are highly skilled for what they have crafted here. I'll leave it to the gamers to decide. Let's hope it breaks 2 million copies on launch day. That is what I'd like to see.



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StreaK said:

Well, I  will admit it started off as a console sales thread but then in my post I mentioned the Zelda thing and I guess I kinda went out on that more than I should have, I will admit.

The thing is, I'm just amazed by the art of "opinion." I mean, for me, I can play both Zelda and Horizon and both will be like in their 90's for me I'm sure. Hell, Ocarina of Time was one of the greatest things I've ever played in its time. I don't understand why some reviewers had to score Horizon so low like it is a problematic game because the thing is optimized to perfection. The least it should get is a 7 because it has no technical flaws, the gameplay is beautiful and the graphics are the best in the industry.Too many positives so it confuses me as to why Zelda is a "10 points higher better kind of game."

For me, it just shows that people are just too in love with Zelda and they cannot accept the fact that something like Horizon can be almost or even on par with it. OH THE TRAGEDY! That's all.

All the reviews do is reinforce how legendary Zelda is. If you can play both games and appreciate them like you say you can then stop letting a Metascore bother you. The only tragedy is how much you are letting this bother you.



If nostalgia was a playing factor nowadays, sonic alongside many other old franchises like bomberman would still be relevant and getting high scores, which didn't, just accept the game is good and stop embarassing yourself with this horizon vs zelda, the more you post, the clearer it is too see you didn't play zelda at all and it's salty cause of the praise the game it's getting.



“On my business card, I am a corporate president. In my mind, I am a game developer. But in my heart, I am a gamer.” - Satoru Iwata

StreaK said:
SegataSanshiro said:
Rofl OP really keeps digging a hole for himself in this thread. It's pretty clear you are making assumptions on Zelda. Pretty much all of them wrong. You might want to play both before making threads like this.

Dude, it's not like I'm completely in the dar about the BotW just because I haven't had any hands on with it. I will eventually play Zelda but not for a while so I am currentl;y watching let's play videos of the game and I must admit...after coming off of Horizon the new Zelda just doesn't impress me. Horizon for me had this INSTANT wow-factor that is hard to explain. The world just feels 10X bigger than that of Zelda's even though it may or may not be the case. The battle system in Horizon is FAR more engaging and epic. I don't know, I guess Zelda isn't my cup of tea anymore. Horizon's style and execution appeals to my tastes quite a bit more. I love when a game can be a game and also be highly cinematic. Horizon pretty much nailed it!

Btw, this is coming from someone who was not even looking forward to Horizon. I was actually expecting the worst for this game since I was never a fan of the Killzone games and what does GG know about open worldrpg's?

Anyway, whatever. It is what it is, but as far as I'm concerned if Zelda is a 98 than Horizon is a 100. And even I know Horizon shouldn't be a 100. Just my two cents.

Why care what Meta says? Seriously why care? Also I can't accept HZD because how clueless the devs are on Native cultures  and follow the trend of whitewashing  in games.



i don't know why MOD is closing my thread while letting this one alive?

here from my last thread

It might gotten lower than 88 rating it currently sitting at metacitic/opencritic/gameranking with the final impression of both series by major gaming media and website.
Here a few list of what major press like IGN,gamespot,gameinformer and kotaku talk about the major differences between two that should put HZD to lower than it currently at.

-Scripted world compared to more dynamic BOTW world

-Interactivity in HZD world is minimal compared to BOTW vast world interaction

-Turn off your brain and go from point A to point B because there's nothing happen in between unlike BOTW
where you can go straight from point A to point Z and ignoring completely point B,C,D,E and so on.
-Melee combat is shallow with only one type of weapon

-Stealth section is laughable with completely dismissing noise detection mechanics compared to Zelda BOTW

-Minimal combat approach needed in HZD against Zelda BOTW dynamic approaches with Terrain,weather,physics,weapon,wild animal and a lot more ways to defeats your opponent

-Human AI

my prediction if HZD has been reviewed after BOTW it's probably gonna end up the same metascore as The last Guardian, ok game that come every year and nothing revolutionary about that compared to BOTW game of the generation or perhaps Game of all time candidate with open world perfection it brings to the gaming industry.



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katakpisang said:
i don't know why MOD is closing my thread while letting this one alive?

here from my last thread

It might gotten lower than 88 rating it currently sitting at metacitic/opencritic/gameranking with the final impression of both series by major gaming media and website.
Here a few list of what major press like IGN,gamespot,gameinformer and kotaku talk about the major differences between two that should put HZD to lower than it currently at.

-Scripted world compared to more dynamic BOTW world

-Interactivity in HZD world is minimal compared to BOTW vast world interaction

-Turn off your brain and go from point A to point B because there's nothing happen in between unlike BOTW
where you can go straight from point A to point Z and ignoring completely point B,C,D,E and so on.
-Melee combat is shallow with only one type of weapon

-Stealth section is laughable with completely dismissing noise detection mechanics compared to Zelda BOTW

-Minimal combat approach needed in HZD against Zelda BOTW dynamic approaches with Terrain,weather,physics,weapon,wild animal and a lot more ways to defeats your opponent

-Human AI

my prediction if HZD has been reviewed after BOTW it's probably gonna end up the same metascore as The last Guardian, ok game that come every year and nothing revolutionary about that compared to BOTW game of the generation or perhaps Game of all time candidate with open world perfection it brings to the gaming industry.

And you could say the exact opposite, too. That since the reviewers were already familiar with Horizon, that they were more impressed with Zelda than they would have been.



If nostalgia was a playing factor nowadays, sonic alongside many other old franchises like bomberman would still be relevant and getting high scores, which didn't, just accept the game is good and stop embarassing yourself with this horizon vs zelda, the more you post, the clearer it is too see you didn't play zelda at all and it's salty cause of the praise the game is getting.



“On my business card, I am a corporate president. In my mind, I am a game developer. But in my heart, I am a gamer.” - Satoru Iwata

VGPolyglot said:
katakpisang said:
i don't know why MOD is closing my thread while letting this one alive?

here from my last thread

It might gotten lower than 88 rating it currently sitting at metacitic/opencritic/gameranking with the final impression of both series by major gaming media and website.
Here a few list of what major press like IGN,gamespot,gameinformer and kotaku talk about the major differences between two that should put HZD to lower than it currently at.

-Scripted world compared to more dynamic BOTW world

-Interactivity in HZD world is minimal compared to BOTW vast world interaction

-Turn off your brain and go from point A to point B because there's nothing happen in between unlike BOTW
where you can go straight from point A to point Z and ignoring completely point B,C,D,E and so on.
-Melee combat is shallow with only one type of weapon

-Stealth section is laughable with completely dismissing noise detection mechanics compared to Zelda BOTW

-Minimal combat approach needed in HZD against Zelda BOTW dynamic approaches with Terrain,weather,physics,weapon,wild animal and a lot more ways to defeats your opponent

-Human AI

my prediction if HZD has been reviewed after BOTW it's probably gonna end up the same metascore as The last Guardian, ok game that come every year and nothing revolutionary about that compared to BOTW game of the generation or perhaps Game of all time candidate with open world perfection it brings to the gaming industry.

And you could say the exact opposite, too. That since the reviewers were already familiar with Horizon, that they were more impressed with Zelda than they would have been.

it doesn't work like that, they even playing horizon zero dawn back after playing zelda and the result? more shallow gameplay experience like what in gameinformer , vice gaming and gamespot said in their podcast.



CGI-Quality said:
katakpisang said:
i don't know why MOD is closing my thread while letting this one alive?

Simple - the content is presented in a different manner here. The comparison wasn't the problem, just the means with which you used to present it.

so you letting this one go because he is stating his own opinions while i cannot do the same when i have major press and website that backup my statement about the score?

cherry-picking much? 



I can see Zelda outselling Horizon but i dont think Switch launch will match PS4s.