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SuperNova on 05 April 2017

The supply constraint with the Switch is infuriating. How is it going to pass the wiiU (and maybe the 3DS) if nintendo can't ship the thing! DX



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Soundwave on 05 April 2017
SuperNova said:
The supply constraint with the Switch is infuriating. How is it going to pass the wiiU (and maybe the 3DS) if nintendo can't ship the thing! DX

Wii U will obviously happen pretty soon. 

3DS will probably be more back and forth, 3DS will in the next few weeks go into it's drought phase but it obviously picked up after its price cut. 



DanneSandin on 05 April 2017

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GuyDuke on 05 April 2017

Hopefully Wii U will enter soon its disastrous phase.



mjk45 on 05 April 2017
Mbolibombo said:
pokoko said:
The numbers in the OP show just how much of an uphill climb the Switch has in replacing two systems. Yes, the Wii U did modest numbers but when you place that total on top of the successful 3DS, that's an imposing goal.

That total hardware units sold will contract is a very likely outcome, perhaps even by a significant degree.

I hope we can get some good software numbers (including digital) so we can find out if the Switch is selling a lot more software than either the Wii U or 3DS did on their own, which it has to do in order to be considered a success.

One successful system is better than one succesful and one failure though. It's just about about the raw number. I think that comparison is silly.

 

What should be taken into account is handhelds like the 3DS sell on average around 50% less software per unit compared to home consoles , so it will be interesting going forward to see how the overall software figures for the Switch pan out being a hybrid with a foot in both camps, has to how those two intersecting buying patterns affect each other depend on a lot of variables, overall change we will see in the figures , just not the micro patterns underneath.



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Soundwave on 05 April 2017

Tie ratio will largely be determined by how the library develops IMO.

Zelda, Mario Odyessy, and Xenoblade 2 paint a good picture early that Nintendo understands they need to have the big, epic experiences.

But Nintendo has a poor tendancy to meander and lose focus as a generation goes on.

If the Switch gets flooded with too many small scale/bite size games and tons of lower budget types of experiences, then I think its tie ratio will suffer as people will look at it more as a portable device.

To keep that thing docked you want experiences like Zelda and it's up to Nintendo to not forget to keep making games like that. You have an excited portion of fans now, but they can lose interest if you don't keep them happy. Nintendo can't afford E3 2008 style fuck ups in other words, they must have a regular flow of content that excites the home console player, and the home console player wants games that really *need* to be a 55-inch HDTV. 



mjk45 on 05 April 2017
RolStoppable said:
mjk45 said:

What should be taken into account is handhelds like the 3DS sell on average around 50% less software per unit compared to home consoles , so it will be interesting going forward to see how the overall software figures for the Switch pan out being a hybrid with a foot in both camps, has to how those two intersecting buying patterns affect each other depend on a lot of variables, overall change we will see in the figures , just not the micro patterns underneath.

The likely outcome is that Switch will perform closer to the tie ratio of home consoles, probably even on the same level. Sales of accessories will perform similarly.

Why?

Because Switch will be treated like a home console by most of its buyers, so game and accessory purchases will go accordingly. Japan will treat it more like a handheld, but there the tie ratio difference between home consoles and handhelds isn't anywhere close to as pronounced as it is in America and Europe.

The playing behaviors for Switch can already be observed and most Americans and Europeans greatly prefer docked mode. It's the playing behavior that dictates how much money is invested in a system. Handhelds tend to lose out when it comes to home use, but Switch doesn't fall into that category, so more games will be bought.

I agree It is a smart move and one that should see it's sales ratio fall inline with home console use, my fascination is with the different demographics that exist between the old consoles  not so much those who own a multitude of consoles like me or some one like you who does the same thing just from a Nintendo perspective, to us it's just one less piece of hardware to worry about.

My interest is with those souls who only exist in the murky world of Nintendo handheld gaming and how they approach the Switch .



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NintendoPie on 06 April 2017
Shadow1980 said:

Oh, and I'll whip up a chart for the OP to use after I eat dinner.

Did you ever whip up that chart?



zorg1000 on 06 April 2017
NintendoPie said:
Shadow1980 said:

Oh, and I'll whip up a chart for the OP to use after I eat dinner.

Did you ever whip up that chart?

hes still eating



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GuyDuke on 06 April 2017
RolStoppable said:
guiduc said:
Hopefully Wii U will enter soon its disastrous phase.

The current week 5 comparison marks the first week of January 2013 for Wii U which is the final week of the Japanese holiday season. Week 6 will see a severe drop for Wii U (down to 20k), followed by several sub-15k weeks before it gets really bad. Even if Switch drops to 20-30k levels before MK8 Deluxe releases, it will still gain on Wii U.

Good, thanks for the precisions.