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jason1637 on 20 February 2017
NATO said:
Azzanation said:

Wow theres clearly an issue with taking what is said serious and not by a figure of speech. What ever % you want to go by both consoles are very similar to eachother. To the customer there is barely any difference apart from the price tags and acouple AAA 1st party games separating the machines and im talking at launch. PS4 had both the price and power as a major selling point not games. Better or more variety of games is very debatable even to today. More games? Better games? No and no, thats clearly your impression. 

I have a brother who works in the retail market chain that sells consoles and games and he tells me most customers look at preformance and price. Majority of parants who by there kids consoles buy the better deal (Price) while majority of hardcore or casual gamers buy a platform based on preformance (Power) and only the niche audience also known as fanboys buy a console based off brands and franchises.

Sony had a 1 2 hit on the sales board over its competitors and thats a massive advantage in the long run. Just look at the best selling games on both platforms and majority are the same 3rd party games leading the way. Why did the PS4 out sell the XB1 when the top selling games on both platforms are 3rd party multiplats? Well it must be something else, price and preformance maybe..

More games and better games is clearly my impression and not an actual fact?

XBO: 1055 games, 34 exclusive 124 console exclusive 920 multiplat

PS4: 1338 games, 109 exclusive 382 console exclusive 41 timed exclusive 729 multiplat

XBO games with metacritic 90 or above: 7

PS4 games with metacritic 90 or above: 17

XBO exclusive with metacritic 90 or above: 1

PS4 exclusive with metacritic 90 or above: 5

 

Yep just my impression, tooootally not based on facts or anything.

Also,your brother works in retail? First of all he has my condolences, second of all, his observations are not applicable to another store let alone another state or country, and no more or less valid than anyone else's

The list doesnt add up. How can XB1 have more multiplats than PS4?



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NATO on 20 February 2017
jason1637 said:

The list doesnt add up. How can XB1 have more multiplats than PS4?

3DS / WiiU

Feel free to verify for yourself:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_One_games
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_4_games



TheSting on 20 February 2017
fatslob-:O said:
Pemalite said:

Good point, I had forgotten about the PSP to be honest.

Well then there's the N64 too with the expansion pak which arguably started the trend of enhancing games with the current softwares for the platform ...

No. Sega Genesis had the 32x in 1994



fatslob-:O on 20 February 2017
TheSting said:

No. Sega Genesis had the 32x in 1994

Oh right, the 32x is practically an extension to the Sega Genesis ... 



Zekkyou on 20 February 2017
Snoopy said:
NATO said:

> implying 90% of games are the same

> implying people were choosing more based on power than the huge price difference

> implying PlayStation's track record for delivering a wide variety of great games had nothing to do with it

> implying the Xbox brand was ever as strong as PlayStation, when in reality the lead only ever existed because of the year market headstart

Oh boy are you misguided.

To be fair, xbox only needs US and UK market to be successful. The 360 and ps3 were nearly tied (ps3 slightly ahead), but the 360 had a way higher software attach ratio (almost 2:1) because US and UK buys the most software out of all the regions. So if Microsoft dominates US and UK like they did with the 360 era, they will be fine. It's amazing how xbox one is only a few million behind ps4 in United States despite the botch launch. If they don't mess up they can easily dominate the region which will be huge.

Do you have a source for that? On VGC their attach ratio is almost the same (11.7 vs 11.2).



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thismeintiel on 20 February 2017
Zekkyou said:
Snoopy said:

To be fair, xbox only needs US and UK market to be successful. The 360 and ps3 were nearly tied (ps3 slightly ahead), but the 360 had a way higher software attach ratio (almost 2:1) because US and UK buys the most software out of all the regions. So if Microsoft dominates US and UK like they did with the 360 era, they will be fine. It's amazing how xbox one is only a few million behind ps4 in United States despite the botch launch. If they don't mess up they can easily dominate the region which will be huge.

Do you have a source for that? On VGC their attach ratio is almost the same (11.7 vs 11.2).

And don't forget we never got any form of varification of any SW from MS, because MS doesn't release any SW numbers.  For all we know, it could very well be 11.7 vs 10.5 in PS3's favor.  Later in its life, it did get quite a few more exclusives/ports, especially of Japanese games, than the 360 did.



 

d21lewis on 20 February 2017
NATO said:
jason1637 said:

The list doesnt add up. How can XB1 have more multiplats than PS4?

3DS / WiiU

Feel free to verify for yourself:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_One_games
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_4_games

That's the problem. When it comes to game lists, Wikipedia is woefully inaccurate. It relies on fans to supply the info. I checked a while back and one of my consoles barely had any games. Can't remember which, though. 

 

I haven't clicked either link (they may be spot on for all I know) but Wikipedia isn't the most reliable. Sometimes, they even list games that are cancelled. You can probably do better elsewhere.



jason1637 on 20 February 2017
Bandorr said:
d21lewis said:

That's the problem. When it comes to game lists, Wikipedia is woefully immaculate. It relies on fans to supply the info. I checked a while back and one of my consoles barely had any games. Can't remember which, though. 

 

I haven't clicked either link (they may be spot on for all I know) but Wikipedia isn't the most reliable. Sometimes, they even list games that are cancelled. You can probably do better elsewhere.

Made even worse by simply "listing" the games. There is no release date for some of them, and others aren't even out yet.

If you look at xbox consoles on Amazon you will see the statement "with over 100 exclusives". The issue? They don't have 100 exclusives. At least not yet.  Even ignoring the gray area of switch/Windows 10 - they still don't.  Once you remove games that aren't out yet the list falls under 100.

That said - there is no way they share 90% of the same games. I'd be surprised if they share 50% of the same games. Each system has a lot of exclusives.

No it says

"Play over 100 console exclusives and a growing library of Xbox 360 games on Xbox One."



jason1637 on 20 February 2017
Bandorr said:
jason1637 said:

No it says

"Play over 100 console exclusives and a growing library of Xbox 360 games on Xbox One."

Yes. It doesn't have over 100 console exclusives. Thus the reason I ignored PC games. I believe it was in the high 80s last time I checked.

"Crackdown 3

  Action adventure, third-person shooter, sandbox ReAgent Games Microsoft Studios Console 2017 2017 2017 [66][67]

"

It is a console exclusive - but it isn't out yet. When narrowed down to games already out - the list ended up under 100.

That said if you can find a list of 100 console exclusives that are currently out - I'd love to see it.

edit: Actually I don't know if I counted games on xbox on 360 or not. So I'm going to see if I can make another list and have a look.

http://gematsu.com/exclusives/xbox-one



NATO on 20 February 2017
d21lewis said:
NATO said:

3DS / WiiU

Feel free to verify for yourself:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_One_games
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_4_games

That's the problem. When it comes to game lists, Wikipedia is woefully inaccurate. It relies on fans to supply the info. I checked a while back and one of my consoles barely had any games. Can't remember which, though. 

 

I haven't clicked either link (they may be spot on for all I know) but Wikipedia isn't the most reliable. Sometimes, they even list games that are cancelled. You can probably do better elsewhere.

Indeed but wading through and categorizing every single game for both systems to make a point on a forum does not sound like the best use of my time, and using wikipedia, while likely never going to be spot on, is certainly better than pulling percentages and statements out of my arse. Regardless searching ANY list on ANY website shows a much greater number of games and exclusives on the PS4 over the Xbox One, so the point still stands.

Higher number of 90+ metacritic titles however is airtight.