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Soundwave said:
LivingMetal said:

Echo chambers don't do any favors for anyone.  It's that or a one-on-one circle jerk with your favorite bias commentator. 

You're gonna act like Fox New isn't a thing and they didn't give Obama a hard time? Both sides have their echo chamber. 

I didn't say anything about Fox news.  In fact, I take what they say with a grain of salt as well.  And I DIDN'T gIve Obama a hard time during his administration.  I didn't always agree with him, but I respected him.



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Soundwave said:
Slimebeast said:

That's a nonsense response. Could you be specific?

Answer me, what precisely suggests that my motivation is to oppress another human being?

Maybe the "white skinned immigrants are awesome, but dark skinned ones should be treated like shit" part for starters? lol.  

Nope. But some groups of immigrants treat us like shit.



fatslob-:O said:
Soundwave said:

Or we could just judge people on individual merits? No? The fact is by metric of intelligence relative to contribution to humanity in any way, most people (likely inlcuding you and me) are overwhelmingly mediocre. 

Race is a part of the individual whether you like it or not since the the effects are extremely visible externally speaking ... 

And the biggest contributors to modern civilization are a bunch of scientists and engineers but those communities happen to be dominated by caucasians along with east asians too ...

Race is as big of an issue as you want to make it. 

If I created an island and raised a group of people from childhood to believe that say height defined superiority and that tall people are superior to short people ... guess what, I could create a society where they would believe that and probably even kill each other over it. 

So East Indians, Asians, and causasians domiante modern science fields ... which says what exactly?



Soundwave said:
Slimebeast said:

Middle eastern culture is.

If we end up as a minority in our own country, of course that's going to have serious implications on my culture and the habits of my people.

Many protective cultures in our world will exist long in the future. For example Chinese and Japanese culture is going to exist as separate cultures for a long time, much longer than 100 years at least.

Which country do you live in? In 100 years even Japan and China will be radically different, China already is quite different from just 20 years ago. 

China won't be ethnically radically different. It won't be a melting pot. But in 100 years the Swedish people has been wiped out.



Slimebeast said:
Soundwave said:

Maybe the "white skinned immigrants are awesome, but dark skinned ones should be treated like shit" part for starters? lol.  

Nope. But some groups of immigrants treat us like shit.

And I'm sure some of them are treated like shit too. 

So you disagree that people should be treated differently on the basis of skin color? 

This is actually the thing, people logically do realize that racism is pretty fucking stupid when its broken down.



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Soundwave said:

Race is as big of an issue as you want to make it. 

If I created an island and raised a group of people from childhood to believe that say height defined superiority and that tall people are superior to short people ... guess what, I could create a society where they would believe that and probably even kill each other over it. 

So East Indians, Asians, and causasians domiante modern science fields ... which says what exactly?

@Bold From a social standpoint yes, from a technical one that's a no ...

East asians and caucasians being the biggest contributors to modern civilization means that race DOES have a distorting effect in contributions to humanity like it or not ... 



Soundwave said:
Slimebeast said:

Nope. But some groups of immigrants treat us like shit.

And I'm sure some of them are treated like shit too. 

So you disagree that people should be treated differently on the basis of skin color? 

This is actually the thing, people logically do realize that racism is pretty fucking stupid when its broken down.

Immigration is bad for Sweden.

Has nothing to do with racism. You're just denying cultural differences, and trying to label everyone sceptical of immigration as a racist. I have never said anything negative about skin color.



Slimebeast said:
Soundwave said:

Which country do you live in? In 100 years even Japan and China will be radically different, China already is quite different from just 20 years ago. 

China won't be ethnically radically different. It won't be a melting pot. But in 100 years the Swedish people has been wiped out.

I see lots of Westerners in China these days, and according to my friend that's radically different from say 20 years ago. If China becomes the defacto global superpower with lots of affluence it will attract people from all over the world. 

Sweden is a tiny country for one, lets be honest, 10 million people, Los Angeles has a much larger metro population alone. 

But looking at your racial demographics, most of your immigrants are from neighboring Finland and other European countries like Poland. About 400,000 are from the Middle East from the looks of it. So 400,000 of 10 million is approximately 0.04%. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Sweden#Ethnicity

 



Slimebeast said:
Soundwave said:

And I'm sure some of them are treated like shit too. 

So you disagree that people should be treated differently on the basis of skin color? 

This is actually the thing, people logically do realize that racism is pretty fucking stupid when its broken down.

Immigration is bad for Sweden.

Has nothing to do with racism. You're just denying cultural differences, and trying to label everyone sceptical of immigration as a racist. I have never said anything negative about skin color.

Well actually you've said a lot of different things. Like immigration is bad ... but Polish immigration is awesome because they're white basically. So really, you should say what you believe, immigration of dark people is bad for Sweden, that's really what you believe. 



Soundwave said:
Slimebeast said:

China won't be ethnically radically different. It won't be a melting pot. But in 100 years the Swedish people has been wiped out.

I see lots of Westerners in China these days, and according to my friend that's radically different from say 20 years ago. If China becomes the defacto global superpower with lots of affluence it will attract people from all over the world. 

Sweden is a tiny country for one, lets be honest, 10 million people, Los Angeles has a much larger metro population alone. 

But looking at your racial demographics, most of your immigrants are from neighboring Finland and other European countries like Poland. About 400,000 are from the Middle East from the looks of it. So 400,000 of 10 million is approximately 0.04%. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Sweden#Ethnicity

 

Twisted data.

It's more like 8-10%, and among people of young age it's about 15-20%. And in big cities, among young people 30-40%. Together with other foreigners, more than 50%.