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The real issue here is why did anyone sign him on for anything in the first place.



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People and media are so evil by totally misrepersenting things as anything other than a joke to prove a point (that you can hire people to say ridiculous things for 5 bucks).

This PC culture and virtue signaling is insane, pure selfishness and evil.

Even more problematic is that nothing would have happened if the sign had said "death to all white people".



IkePoR said:
Lawlight said:

Clearly a lot of people do - Seinfeld's shows have sold out in Australia 1 whole year in advance.

Mario got outclassed by Rayman at 2D platforming years ago but guess who sells better? Mario is still fun but not the platforming masterpiece it used to be. Nostalgia is more powerful than people think and Seinfeld was a great show, but the person telling the jokes isn't the same guy from 20 years ago.

Modern mario destroys most of the old games...



Lawlight said:
JWeinCom said:

Not exactly.  The evidence for Disney being anti-semitic is pretty sparse.  There is like one or two cartoons with Mickey dressed as a Hasidic Jew or something.

The creator of Goofy also claimed that Walt was a member of a pro-Nazi organization.  But, the two of them had a long history of animosity and legal disputes.  Nobody else has corroborated these accounts.

Disney did attend meetings of an antisemitic organization, the Motion Picture Alliance for the Preservation of American Ideals.  The organization was largely anti-semitic, but it's mission statement was against Communism and Fascism, which Disney was very much against.

Disney employed a lot of Jews at his studios.  There are some accounts of off color jokes, but on the whole, Disney seemed to treat them well.  Several animators have spoken against the allegations.  His daughter dated a Jewish guy, reportedly with no objections from walt.  He made a bunch of donations to Jewish charities.  Interestingly, Walt was named man of the year by B'nai B'rith, a prominent Jewish organization, in 1955.  Before giving him the award, they investigated the claims of anti-semitism and judged them to be unfounded.  Of Walt's biographers, none of them seemed to believe him to be anti-semitic.

Ultimately, this kind of shows why Disney dropped Pewdiepie.  Because things are often blown out of proportion, and something like associating with anti-semites (or even perceived anti-semites) can spark a rumor that people will believe for over 50 years.  The evidence suggests that Disney was not anti-semitic.  

Mickey dressed as a Hasidic Jew is anti-semitic?

 I'm really not interested in that thing you do.  You know, where you take one sentence of a post, ignore the tone and context copletely, and use it to try and make it sound like I said something that I did not, so you can feel like you made some sort of point.

If, in the future, you gain the attention span to read more than one sentence, and are able to construct a response that demonstrates that you read and comprehended my post, feel free to respond.

Otherwise, please just don't respond.  There are plenty of people who are willing to waste time on that sort of thing, but I'm not.  I'm 100% sure I already explained this.



VGPolyglot said:
Lawlight said:

No, they did not just whiten their names. They also changed from their involvement in political activities. So, what's the average callback for whites involved in political activities vs those that are involved? Also, based on the studies, does this mean that white people add an Asian surname they would increase their chances by 5%? Seems like it based on the findings.

How does it show that? Also, a majority of politicians are white, so it's not that surprising that they'd indiciate political activities. And how does having and Asian surname increase their chances? You seem to believe in the just world fallacy.

It shows that because Asians with Western first name and Asian last name have a 21% callback rate vs the 16.7% for white names. That's what the study you posted shows. It's not rocket science, really.

Also, maybe the majority of politicians are white because there are more white people in Canada?



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JWeinCom said:
Lawlight said:

Mickey dressed as a Hasidic Jew is anti-semitic?

 I'm really not interested in that thing you do.  You know, where you take one sentence of a post, ignore the tone and context copletely, and use it to try and make it sound like I said something that I did not, so you can feel like you made some sort of point.

If, in the future, you gain the attention span to read more than one sentence, and are able to construct a response that demonstrates that you read and comprehended my post, feel free to respond.

Otherwise, please just don't respond.  There are plenty of people who are willing to waste time on that sort of thing, but I'm not.  I'm 100% sure I already explained this.

So, why did you use that example? The line followed your sentence about how the evidence is sparse. So, answe the question - is that an example of Disney being anti-Semitic? Or do you run away anytime someone points out where you're wrong?



In 20 years, no one is going to know who this kid is and he's going to be swallowed by time and forgotten. When the only talent you have is gaming the system for money, that's always going to be your fate.



Lawlight said:
VGPolyglot said:

How does it show that? Also, a majority of politicians are white, so it's not that surprising that they'd indiciate political activities. And how does having and Asian surname increase their chances? You seem to believe in the just world fallacy.

It shows that because Asians with Western first name and Asian last name have a 21% callback rate vs the 16.7% for white names. That's what the study you posted shows. It's not rocket science, really.

Also, maybe the majority of politicians are white because there are more white people in Canada?

Read it again. 16.7 is the average out of everyone, not just whites. And since blacks and Asians are lower than that, whites have to be higher.



VGPolyglot said:
Aura7541 said:

"Complain" is hyperbolic, more like he acknowledges that white people are discrimminated against. Also, acknowledgement of discrimmination against white people does not equate to condoning Naziism. That would be a slippery slope fallacy, like an 89 degree incline slippery slope.

But he made Heil Hitler jokes before, so I'm not linking them arbitrarily. And how are white people being discriminated against? I can almost guarantee that it is composed of isolated issues rather than something systemic. Jon's father is Iranian, maybe instead of praising Trump he should call him out for trying to ban people like his own father from coming in merely due to their nationality.

Whether the discimmination is done in an individual or systemic basis doesn't matter, because discrimmination is discrimmination no matter how you cut it. I can come up with several cases of where whites are discrimminated against just based on their skin color such as Bahar Mustafa's #KillAllWhiteMen, the BLM's hijacking of the Orlando shooting vigil, the Chicago kidnapping, the countless allegations that Trump was elected by white people when he did a better job at getting the minority vote than Romney, BBC's hiring methodology, white passerbys getting assaulted during the Charlotte riots, I can go on. We can have the isolated vs systemic debate all we like, but the amount of individual cases is not trivial.

Also, once again, you have the propensity to misrepresent another person's points like claiming that JonTron was "complaining" about anti-white discrimmination and what I'm about to address, your allegation that he was praising Trump. I watched through much of the livestream again, but I heard more of his criticisms on the mainstream media and left's complacency. Heck, he even stated that he supported Bernie Sanders so perhaps you should hold back on those Nazi allegations that you seem to be eager to throw out again.

Your allegations also have a second fatal flaw: lack of specificity. JonTron praised Trump on what? His policies? Him winning? His opposition against political correctness? Making such a general allegation doesn't help your case, especially when the livestream lasted for 5 hours, so examples are of great importance. Otherwise, this is nothing more than a mere assertion.



I suppose the humour was too un-PC for Disney's comfort, but it's not like Pewdiepie is known for being softspoken, so I don't know what were they expecting his line to be drawn at as for what his humour is concerned.

I also don't understand why this guy gets so much hate from some people.