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Lawlight said:

Sure.... except in this case. You got caught with your pants down and are refusing to say that you were wrong in using that word in that context. No, you weren't saying it in the context of a judicial case or law.

Lol @ except in this case.  In EVERY case a word in a particular sentence has one specific meaning.  And the job of the reader is to determine which of the possible usages is appropriate, based on the context.  There's nothing special about this case.  Oh the silly things you say in your dogged determination to prove me wrong.  It's actually kind of adorable at this point <3. 

Anyways, the way people attempt to prove an argument in most contexts is analogous to the methods you would use in court.  You provide data to back up your assertions... I mean, maybe you don't, but some of us do.  That's why some legal terms have bled into everyday language.  For example, "Paul Perkins made his case that he should be a starter", or "the jury is still out on corporate short termism", or "evidence suggests that Apple is working on the biggest mobile game".  All of these are actual examples of writers using courtroom terminology in non-courtroom situations.  If you've never heard the word evidence used in the manner I used it outside of courtroom situations, then I'm sorry that you're not very well read.

If you want to be anal about whether or not this is a court case (and clearly, you love to be anal), then we could use this definition that conveys the same idea but makes it applicable to situations outside court. "Evidence is anything that you see, experience, read, or are told that causes you to believe that something is true or has really happened." (https://www.collinsdictionary.com/)  Same gist, but not specific to court.

And of course, I can actually demonstrate that your suggestion that I was using synonym to be proof is wrong.  We can use the same technique that I go over with third graders.  Simply replace the word with each possible meaning.  I ended my post by saying, "The evidence suggests that Disney was not anti-semitic".  If we replace the word evidence with proof, that becomes "the proof suggests that Disney was not antisemitic" that would make no sense.  Proof doesn't suggest.  It proves.  If we replace the word evidence with "information presented in a case", then we get "The information presented in this case suggests that Disney was not anti-semitic".  This makes perfect sense.  Bubble in A on your answer sheet.

Secondly, the main idea (identifying the main idea is also a skill you should have learned at some point in elementary school) is clearly that Walt Disney was not an anti-semite (pro-tip:  In an persuasive essay, the conclusion usually tells you the main idea!).  If I were making this case, then claiming there was "proof" that Disney was an anti-semite would contradict everything else I said.   The other usage does not contradict the rest of the post, so we can say that that is the intended meaning.  If one usage doesn't make sense, and one does, the one that makes sense is most likely the intended usage.  



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I never heard about PewDiePie, I didn´t have any clue of what it was until I saw this thread.



VGPolyglot said:
Aura7541 said:

You need to prove that there is intent behind the making of those laws. If you're arguing that the laws are made to be disadvantageous to poorer people because more poor people commit more crimes, then this is ad hoc ergo propter hoc. You even stated in your latest comment that rich people are at an advantage because they don't have to worry about their next paycheck. Nothing about that reasoning is related to law, which makes your earlier assertion out of place.

The constitution was made by rich slaveowners, and the average salary of a congressman is much higher than the average person, and people who are born rich agree more likely to be rich, so it's easy to deduce that the laws are made by rich people for rich people, and it's obviously working. I'm saying that poor people commit more crimes because it is the rich people who decide what the crimes are.

So, you're saying democracy doesn't happen? If the lawmakers don't represent the people's morale/what people think is right, people are going to vote for new lawmakers, isn't it so?



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Acevil said:
Wonder if this files under "I am a rich idiot" or the world is too sensitive.

I would say the first one. When you're in the public eye you have to behave a certain way. Disney is a huge corporation, so even if he meant ti as a joke them supporting him would mean they also support the way he acts. 



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irstupid said:

 I just don't get Liberals. They scream about discrimination and wanting equality, yet they are busy labeling everybody into groups as hard as they can. Heck, look at recent election. After every debate, or any poll that came out, the talk woudl constantly be on what demographic voted for who. Talking about who women voted for, and then bashing how could a woman vote for someone. Constantly hearing about Uneducated white voters. Yea, that's great. Lets just go and call a huge group of people stupid for their label.

Labeling people into groups and wanting them privledges is actually anarchism (each of them can live by their own rules). Rhetorics itself come from faschism where you blame racial groups for everything that's bad.



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Saw some ESPN tennis announcer got fired today because when announcing for one of the Williams sisters, he used a common tennis phrase "guerilla" when she was attacking.

PC is everywhere and overly quick to make wrong assumptions.



Just saw that, don't see much which was meant to be evil against Jews and not just some comedy (good or bad is up to every single viewer) and I say that as German, someone who does get told every single day how anything you say against a Jew is bad because of Germany's history.

If I would start to complain about everyone who says something negative about Germans in a comedy show or something similar I couldn't sleep anymore lol.

Some are way too sensitive, yes there are more jokes about Germans, Jews, Americans, small people and so on as about some average dude from Denmark but that doesn't make the people telling these jokes racists or something else considered bad.

If it would have been a "death to all Finn" nobody would have given a shit about it. That's why he said Jews, because he knows people feel different about that but that doesn't make him someone who hates Jews nor someone who wants others to hate them. 



Dropped by Disney for anti-semitism...the same week he makes a collaboration video with a close Jewish friend.

Reminds me of when Matt Stone and Sacha Baren Cohen were accused of anti-semitism. Some people are mind-numbingly stupid. I really don't understand what they have to gain from reacting like this. Do they genuinely believe they are stopping "fascism"? Or do they gain something from acting as offended as possible?

I can understand if Disney dropped him because his humour style is a bit too edgy for them, but any accusations of genuine anti-semitism are ridiculous.

If anyone wants to see the shocking state of journalism these days, have a read of this:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/pewdiepie-antisemitic-jokes-racism-youtube-star-fascism-become-cool-alt-right-young-people-a7579756.html



bdbdbd said:
VGPolyglot said:

The constitution was made by rich slaveowners, and the average salary of a congressman is much higher than the average person, and people who are born rich agree more likely to be rich, so it's easy to deduce that the laws are made by rich people for rich people, and it's obviously working. I'm saying that poor people commit more crimes because it is the rich people who decide what the crimes are.

So, you're saying democracy doesn't happen? If the lawmakers don't represent the people's morale/what people think is right, people are going to vote for new lawmakers, isn't it so?

Yes, I'm saying that democracy doesn't happen. A few hundred people decide the laws. Direct democracy is the only true democracy.



VGPolyglot said:
Aura7541 said:

You need to prove that there is intent behind the making of those laws. If you're arguing that the laws are made to be disadvantageous to poorer people because more poor people commit more crimes, then this is ad hoc ergo propter hoc. You even stated in your latest comment that rich people are at an advantage because they don't have to worry about their next paycheck. Nothing about that reasoning is related to law, which makes your earlier assertion out of place.

The constitution was made by rich slaveowners, and the average salary of a congressman is much higher than the average person, and people who are born rich agree more likely to be rich, so it's easy to deduce that the laws are made by rich people for rich people, and it's obviously working. I'm saying that poor people commit more crimes because it is the rich people who decide what the crimes are.

So you're more concerned about what the lawmakers were than the merits of the Constitution. Just because the Consitution was written by rich people doesn't mean it the laws were made for rich people. This is ad hominem and guilt by association. Overall, your reasoning is still not related to law and you've been given ample opportunity to make your case, but not once have you gone into the merits of the laws that you have problems with.