Netyaroze said:
bonzobanana said:
Good site here;
http://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer
It's from a uk perspective but has zero bias or opinion its statistics based on which models and brands fail and cost and frequency of repair for the insurance company. It's why getting BMW warranty insurance is a lot more than Toyota. As you will see the Japanese brands come top and German brands make up most of the bottom with the top ten of most unreliable models dominated by German cars. Luxury and performance makes for a more complicated car which unless your a Lexus model means expense. Lets not forget a money pit of a car can really effect your lifestyle if a lot of your money is going to keeping such a car on the road plus all the higher costs of insurance etc.
I'm old enough to remember when German cars used to be as reliable as the Japanese models but its been many years since that was true. Nowadays its still Japanese brands with the Korean's probably in distant second place.
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Those stats dont give you the full picture. First of they include cost of repair. Which obviously is extremly high for Bentley and Porsche. Those brands are not made for people without money. So it does not tell you where those brands would rank without the cost factor. Still could be more reliable technically but a small thing will cost you thousands.
Also Frequency of failures. The question is what exactly constitutes as failure. If for example the media screen in a mercedes on the rear left seat starts flickering. Is that considered a failure ?
Logically a Daihatsu has way less technology in it that can fail. If the steering wheel of a merc stops vibrating if you touch the white divide line it is a failure. If the hot stone massage seats dont massage properly anymore its a failure. Or if a sensor stops working out of the dozends that are in a Merc.
Ofcourse a Daihatsu will have the better ranking. Because it has none of these things in the first place and since its a simpler car. The mechanics there do not have to know as much as a Merc Mechanic and it will be cheaper.
Luxury cars are for people who have money to spare. And in return they get Luxury.
But I agree that the OP should not get this car as he is unable to assess the situation correctly and still did not tell which model he is actually refering to.
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It's not hiding that information. I think most of us would realise that by the information they give describing how the statistics are calculated. There is more information available on this site allowing you to break down the data into more detail about frequency of failures and what is going wrong etc.
Many brands are directly comparable though based on a similar range of models and pricing.
Models like Lexus shows that luxury, performance and reasonable running costs is possible.
Some cars just don't age very well, they are almost designed to fail outside warranty and dare I say it but many German cars seem to be designed that way.
You can buy a Mazda MX-5 which is an awesome little sports car you can throw around corners and massive fun and still super reliable with very low running costs.
I'd rather have an extra holiday, a few more games consoles or a better tv and surround system than pay out for a car with expensive running costs. I saw a BMW driver waiting for road side assistance once with the bonnet up speaking to someone on his mobile. He looked as red as a human being can possibly be and was obviously massively stressed for the few seconds I saw him while driving past. Breakdown's are far more common with performance and luxury cars unless you have a very old car which is simply worn out. I'll chose a car that makes breakdowns less likely as a priority over brand snobbery.
