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caffeinade on 02 February 2017
aLkaLiNE said:
crissindahouse said:

The good thing on PC is that you don't only have to look at Steam sales to get good deals for games on Steam or you buy a DRM free game and connect it to your Steam library so yeah, PC is superior to deals on console even if one service doesn't have great deals for some time. 

There is just no way around that if something is better on PC then the free online + deals situation. 

It's not as if I can't find a game for sale on PSN and then the options end. You forget us console peasants have physical and almighty resources like Amazon, eBay or craigslist. I could probably find any game that's on both PC/PS4 cheaper on PS4 with 4 minutes of googling. (Excluding humble bundles which have started making their way to ps4 anyway)

Doom was $18 or $19 AUD on PC a few days ago physical, brand new.
I bought the Tomb Raider collection (up to and including the 2013 game) for $15 USD on Steam.
PC is not left out of good sales.



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ArchangelMadzz on 02 February 2017
Ljink96 said:
Revenue don't mean jack compared to profit. Nintendo as a game company has made 4x the profit of sonys entire business... I vring up profit because that's what keeps investors invested in your company.

Investors care about both, revenue means that people are interested in the product, profits are the company's end meaning they need to make changes to cut the costs involved. 

 

An investor would want to invest more in a couple with growing revenues and a lower profit than a company with shrinking revenues and a good profit margin. 

 

Because shrinking revenue means that the product has a questionable future. 

 

Economics is all about growth, cod makes a bunch of money but I wouldn't advice anyone investing because it's going down and down, as opposed to an IP that doesn't make as much as cod but at least shows growth



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Turkish on 02 February 2017
SegataSanshiro said:
Turkish said:

'No chance' Sony will sell movie studio despite losses, executive says

http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-sony-sale-20170202-story.html
Why you so defensive mang, all I did was educate you on the facts and you act all hurt and annoyed.

Btw your rap video has been nominated for the cringe of the year awards, and it's only february.

Good. That was the point. Everyone else but this forum knew it was a joke and meant to be the worst thing ever. It's supposed to be a cringe. Mission Accomplished. Is that your last minute attempt to make me feel bad by telling me the goal I set out was accomplished?

Like, that wasn't even the cringe part. The parading of these niche Japanese games you will never play but you bought anyways(becuz hoarding glorious Japanese games is what Japan obsessed retro nostalgia fans do) and acting like they're the best games of last year was.

That channel though, "look my collection of no name Japanese games on dead platforms I will never play!" lmao

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KLAMarine on 02 February 2017
caffeinade said:
aLkaLiNE said:

It's not as if I can't find a game for sale on PSN and then the options end. You forget us console peasants have physical and almighty resources like Amazon, eBay or craigslist. I could probably find any game that's on both PC/PS4 cheaper on PS4 with 4 minutes of googling. (Excluding humble bundles which have started making their way to ps4 anyway)

Doom was $18 or $19 AUD on PC a few days ago physical, brand new.
I bought the Tomb Raider collection (up to and including the 2013 game) for $15 USD on Steam.
PC is not left out of good sales.

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foxtail on 02 February 2017
GProgrammer said:
Teeqoz said:

No, network only.

Thanks, I see from the quarter this is how much revenue each part made

Sony Hardware revenue $2.47 Billion

Sony Network revenue $1.87 Billion

Sony Other revenue $$0.91 Billion

Nintendo Revenue $1.5 Billion

 

Yes so apparently Network did make more money than the whole of Nintendo

My post is mostly nitpicking but bear with me =P

Technically Revenue is how much they received from sales and not really what they made but sold.  If you're talking about what they made it would be more in line with their terms Operating Income or Profit. 

The (G&NS) Game & Network Services segment is separated into 3 parts, (1 )Hardware, (2) Network, (3) Other.

  1. Hardware includes home and portable game consoles.  
  2. Network includes network services relating to game, video and music content provided by Sony Interactive Entertainment.
  3. Other includes packaged software and peripheral devices.

Network does include things outside videogames (such as PlayStation Vue, PlayStation Music, PlayStation Video) but we do not know how much they contribute to "Network" revenue.

 

279,858 Million Yen - Hardware - 

212,701 Million Yen - Network - 

104,438 Million Yen - Other - 

I'm not sure which exchange rate Sony uses, but these are listed in the report.

Average foreign exchange rate for quarter (USD) was 109.3

Period-end foreign exchange rate (USD) was 116.5



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caffeinade on 02 February 2017
KLAMarine said:
caffeinade said:

Doom was $18 or $19 AUD on PC a few days ago physical, brand new.
I bought the Tomb Raider collection (up to and including the 2013 game) for $15 USD on Steam.
PC is not left out of good sales.

No membership fee required.

Well, I did not buy Doom (waiting untill it is cheaper) and I do not enjoy playing online very often, Tomb Raider does not drive me to break my norm; Great hair physics.



VAMatt on 02 February 2017
torok said:
crissindahouse said:

The good thing on PC is that you don't only have to look at Steam sales to get good deals for games on Steam or you buy a DRM free game and connect it to your Steam library so yeah, PC is superior to deals on console even if one service doesn't have great deals for some time. 

There is just no way around that if something is better on PC then the free online + deals situation. 

A lot of games are Steam only and even if you buy in other places, you get a Steam key. So you can't get away of the DRM. If Valve goes out of business you lose all your games. At least in my case, that's enough to keep me away from it, but a lot of people don't care.

Also mind that physical console games can be sold or buy used, so you can save a lot of money. You can also borrow games for free. People should factor this in before claiming that console games are more expensive. A lot of games have limited replay value and reselling them can save you easily half of the price. If you buy a game in a crazy sale, you can even resell it by a higher price than you paid. You can also trade games with friends and just play other games without expending a penny.

You aren't buying the same thing Steam sells. Steam sells you a personal license, so you have less control over the product. It's cheaper because it isn't the same product.

This is a very good point.  For many years, I allowed myself only $100 per year for video game software.  I stayed a year or so behind, purchased only used games, and resold them as soon as I was finished.  I played AAA games all the time, and spent very little.  This would not have been possible on Steam, or buying digital on consoles.

 

The first game I purchased at launch in maybe a decade was Destiny, at my brother's urging.  That broke the dam, and I have purchased several other titles at launch since then.  I still resell some, but not nearly as much.  I'm probably spending (net) $300 per year on software now.  I kinda wish I had stuck with my old method.  



HollyGamer on 02 February 2017

So revenue wise and Profit wise SONY is above the rest in gaming division of course.



Pinkie_pie on 02 February 2017
HollyGamer said:
So revenue wise and Profit wise SONY is above the rest in gaming division of course.

Yes, only in gaming division. But for some reason people like to bring up nintendo makes more money than sony. They dont like to compare nintendo gaming division to sony gaming division.



invetedlotus123 on 02 February 2017

Actually, there`s more to a company financial life than just profit. Take Amazon for example, they always make salame thin profit margins from their revenue.