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Has the US become a Fascist state?

yes 52 45.61%
 
no 35 30.70%
 
maybe 27 23.68%
 
Total:114
RJ_Sizzle said:
It sounds like we're national socialists now. I feel like this is less of a transfer of power and more like a coup.

It sounds nothing like Socialistic views imo.  Socialism to me (when I think of it in words) =  when the many strong carry the weak.

This is a police state type of thing, Facism.  Facism to me (when I think of it in words) = laws protect you, but you have no personal freedom.



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JRPGfan said:
RJ_Sizzle said:
It sounds like we're national socialists now. I feel like this is less of a transfer of power and more like a coup.

It sounds nothing like Socialistic views imo.  Socialism to me (when I think of it in words) =  when the many strong carry the weak.

This is a police state type of thing, Facism.  Facism to me (when I think of it in words) = laws protect you, but you have no personal freedom.

"national socialists" = Nazi



Conina said:
JRPGfan said:

It sounds nothing like Socialistic views imo.  Socialism to me (when I think of it in words) =  when the many strong carry the weak.

This is a police state type of thing, Facism.  Facism to me (when I think of it in words) = laws protect you, but you have no personal freedom.

"national socialists" = Nazi

For some reason just saw "socialist" and thought, another american that makes it sound like a dirty word.

I didnt get the nazi part of it, but yeah in that case I agree.

 

The banning of muslims from certain countries getting into the US.

The wall, mass deportations, muslims maybe to carry special ID,.... ect.

The charismatic leader, going "make germany america great again!".

Yeah it makes you wonder.

 

If the US starts invadeing Canada or Mexico... oh uh.



I don't see anything wrong with this. If I traveled to another country I would fully expect to give up a lot of information, and be required to where a tracking device. If I am not a citizen of the country I am in, I do not have any rights. In any country but America, I do what I am told, when I am told to do it.

America seriously needs to take control of its country again. You can not just let people pour in legally and illegally, and just do whatever they want. Maybe some think that is fine, but I sure as hell don't want to be spending money taking care of these people. I don't want these people taking American jobs, and shipping all their earnings back home with no taxes.

I find all the hardcore liberals that are defending illegals, and people just running willy nilly through the country histarical. If they believe this so much, then they need to take down their fences and leave their doors unlocked. When people come in and steal all of their stuff, eat all of their food, and take up residency at their home, they had better not complain, because it is only right to roll over and let people take advantage of you.



Stop hate, let others live the life they were given. Everyone has their problems, and no one should have to feel ashamed for the way they were born. Be proud of who you are, encourage others to be proud of themselves. Learn, research, absorb everything around you. Nothing is meaningless, a purpose is placed on everything no matter how you perceive it. Discover how to love, and share that love with everything that you encounter. Help make existence a beautiful thing.

Kevyn B Grams
10/03/2010 

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KBG29 said:
I don't see anything wrong with this. If I traveled to another country I would fully expect to give up a lot of information, and be required to where a tracking device. If I am not a citizen of the country I am in, I do not have any rights. In any country but America, I do what I am told, when I am told to do it.

America seriously needs to take control of its country again. You can not just let people pour in legally and illegally, and just do whatever they want. Maybe some think that is fine, but I sure as hell don't want to be spending money taking care of these people. I don't want these people taking American jobs, and shipping all their earnings back home with no taxes.

I find all the hardcore liberals that are defending illegals, and people just running willy nilly through the country histarical. If they believe this so much, then they need to take down their fences and leave their doors unlocked. When people come in and steal all of their stuff, eat all of their food, and take up residency at their home, they had better not complain, because it is only right to roll over and let people take advantage of you.

Yes, because wasting money and ruining relationships over some illegals is definitely worth it.

 

Building a wall, kicking out people who do unlikable jobs, and ruining economic relations is definitely not something I look forward to. Instead of being a stuck up idiot and blaming the other political party, why don't you understand that people are against Trump due to the damage his policies will bring.

 

Generalizing groups of people who dislike trump shows the problem with modern day politics. We resort to straw man arguments and fear mongering to gain any sort of progression.

 

Realize that by doing all of this, we aren't magically removing drug users and terrorists. It's simply causing more people to hate the us, and to make imports much more expensive for us. 

 

Terrorism against the US will probably increase. Think about it. With the us now banning groups of people and promoting such ideologies, extremists can teach people that the United States is evil. This is a mistake that'll bring consequences. 

 

To think that you can somehow blame all liberals for this surprises me. Have we seriously gone this low?



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monocle_layton said:

Yes, because wasting money and ruining relationships over some illegals is definitely worth it.

 

Building a wall, kicking out people who do unlikable jobs, and ruining economic relations is definitely not something I look forward to. Instead of being a stuck up idiot and blaming the other political party, why don't you understand that people are against Trump due to the damage his policies will bring.

 

Generalizing groups of people who dislike trump shows the problem with modern day politics. We resort to straw man arguments and fear mongering to gain any sort of progression.

 

Realize that by doing all of this, we aren't magically removing drug users and terrorists. It's simply causing more people to hate the us, and to make imports much more expensive for us. 

 

Terrorism against the US will probably increase. Think about it. With the us now banning groups of people and promoting such ideologies, extremists can teach people that the United States is evil. This is a mistake that'll bring consequences. 

 

To think that you can somehow blame all liberals for this surprises me. Have we seriously gone this low?

Things have just gone to far. I voted for Obama twice, and I voted for Trump this time. I have no political preference. My preference is what is best for the world, the American people, and myself. 

Obama did an excellent job at keeping things stable, but he was not a boss. He did not run the country with a demand for respect, and a get it done attitude. That is why we needed Trump.

The extream liberal people are definilty a problem right now. The same is true for extream right wingers that want to ban gay marriage, take away transgender rights, and so much more. Being on the extream of either side is not healthy for this country, or the world.

I know that asking other countries to play fair is not going to be popular. I know that building a wall, and kicking out illegals is going to piss of illegals and their legal friends. I know that it makes things less safe. Unfourtunatly, we have to do some things that are going to cause some muddy waters for a while, and will likely raise the danger level. Many times, doing the right thing is not the popular or safest thing to do. If we want to build towards a better future, and remain a world leader then America has to right itself, and it has to happen right now.



Stop hate, let others live the life they were given. Everyone has their problems, and no one should have to feel ashamed for the way they were born. Be proud of who you are, encourage others to be proud of themselves. Learn, research, absorb everything around you. Nothing is meaningless, a purpose is placed on everything no matter how you perceive it. Discover how to love, and share that love with everything that you encounter. Help make existence a beautiful thing.

Kevyn B Grams
10/03/2010 

KBG29 on PSN&XBL

KBG29 said:
I don't see anything wrong with this. If I traveled to another country I would fully expect to give up a lot of information, and be required to where a tracking device. If I am not a citizen of the country I am in, I do not have any rights. In any country but America, I do what I am told, when I am told to do it.

While we're at it... why shouldn't also every citizen to give up a lot of information, and be required to wear a tracking device.

Or would you see anything wrong with that? It is for the safety of the population, no problem to give up some freedoms for it, right?



Trump is a hero.

Standing up to ridiculous liberal ideals and controlling the narrative.

Weren't all you liberals saying he will bend to the will of the Republican establishment?????

WRONG! SAD!



World's largest illegal drug exporter to US - Mexico
World's largest illegal drugs consumer - USA

Funny isn't it, we all focus on the poor illegal mexican immigrants, (which the legal ones don't even want there!)
But we don't focus on the cost to social infrastructure, life, health, crime.

And here we go again....
Trump campaigned on sorting out the "Muslim problem" and thus, he is sorting out the "Muslim problem".



Hiku said:
If you have a friend planning to visit the US, rename all his contacts to "Bin Laden", "Gaddafi", etc.

You'll never see or hear from your friend ever again.

You can also rename them with Trump and Bush and go to Iran and the same thing will happen.