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fordy said:
Renna Hazel said:
Nah. It's nice to have different options for hardware. Sony and MS offer too similar of a product. I'd rather have a PS4orXBO and Switch as opposed to a PS4 and XBO.

What aspect of the Switch would you consider beneficial compared to its competitors (don't say portability, because it's clearly a portable console)? 

you're being deliberately dense if you're attempting to continue to act oblivious to the fact that its a hybrid system, and that's its advantage. You can't take a PS4 or Xbox one away from your TV. 

The Switch docks for the TV and then its a pick up and go and play elsewhere sort of thing.

Also some of you (including the OP) seem to be completely unaware of a thing called INFLATION existing. The Switch is no more expensive than almost EVERY single Nintendo system at launch when adjusted for Inflation. Even the Wii. In fact if memory serves me, I think the only home console to be lower (inflation wise) would probably be the Gamecube.

at any rate- if the OP truly can't understand the advantages the Switch, a HYBRID device, would have over the competition OR over its predecessor, then they're too far gone.

Sucks for you if you want to play Nintendo's games but don't want to buy their system, but simply your own whims have no bearing on whether or not Nintendo should or shouldn't go third party. Anyone who has done any research in the matter would be aware of the loss of control and splitting of profits that occurs for third party developers.

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zorg1000 said:
Renna Hazel said:

So I can't name one of it's defining aspects because...it's a defining aspect? 

Well aside portability, I think the joycon controllers are really cool. The motion and gyro aspects are definitely a plus. Also being able to use them as a single controller or split them in two is nice. 

Nintendo still has things to announce, I liked the aspect of the Miiverse so I hope they replace it with something similar. 

8 posts in 9 years!!!!!!!! 2 of which are in this thread, what the hell man lol

What can I say, I'm a lurker (and I never read the message boards here)



Nintendo going third party would be sweet! I would love PS/XBox/PC players to be able to play their games...

This business just don't work that way though, sadly... :(



Renna Hazel said:
zorg1000 said:

8 posts in 9 years!!!!!!!! 2 of which are in this thread, what the hell man lol

What can I say, I'm a lurker (and I never read the message boards here)

Holy smokes!..

 

What do you do then?



KLAMarine said:
Renna Hazel said:

What can I say, I'm a lurker (and I never read the message boards here)

Holy smokes!..

 

What do you do then?

Occasionally look at the sales numbers. Some of the Switch topics on the main page caught my eye so I figured I'd give my two cents and accomplish nothing by doing so. I'll go back to lurking soon enough.  



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mountaindewslave said:

yawn. ridiculous statements. the Switch is nothing like the Wii U, its a portable hybrid for gods sake.

This is coming from someone who is a huge Nintendo fan but DIDNT like the Wii U but has preordered the Switch.

all of the doomsayers are either deliberately being ignorant or just aren't very aware, as acting like the Switch is anything like the Wii U is ridiculous. a HYBRID console is nothing like a home console that simply has a tablet mode for walking around your kitchen. 

no offense, but a lot of you Nintendo doomsayers seem like people who didn't like the 3DS either, a system that is still doing very well and sold out over the holidays. 

And its irrelevant if you're a Nintendo fan, it doesn't magically make your opinion any more important than someone who isn't a Nintendo fan, simply because there's a bit of parallel between what you claim to like and your predictions.

I also find it hilarious though that you criticize the the price of the Switch (and presumably the accessories)- that's sort of the point, Nintendo almost always makes profit from simply selling their systems or accessories. The concept that they should go third party when they've made loads of money from selling their own gear for years is just absurd. 

Some of you seem to think its impressive to be negative about a company you like. Its not. And there are tons of people (like myself) who didn't like the Wii U but have already bought the Switch. The concept that the market is aiming for at all the same people is just absurd.

Good luck with your negativity and disappointment with Nintendo, sounds like you're wallowing in it. Nintendo will be perfectly fine.

Yes it's a Hybrid console, in that it needs to appeal to both home and portable markets. In terms of home console based software, it will fail merely on the fact that it STILL has the same issue as the WiiU did: it's significantly less powerful than its competitors, and publishers wont spend the time to port AAA titles on a whim that it "might" sell okay on the switch.

The portable side was explained pretty thoroughly in my explanation, considering that's what I've deemed the Switch to be.

I actually liked the 3DS. I thought it was a bit pricey, but I definitely got my moneys worth out of it. The only gripe I had was the placement of the power button, which can be confirmed by looking at my post history.

 

" there's a bit of parallel between what you claim to like and your predictions."

That's called being a realist. As I said, I love what Nintendo have contributed to the industry, and I want them to succeed. However, their hardware model has become uncompetitive. As I explained in the OP, the Switch most likely has no wiggle room for a price drop, unless key features are removed in a later revision of the hardware. They might turn a small profit from hardware, but do you know what turns bigger profits? Selling software on platforms with millions more potential buyers. 



zorg1000 said:
"I own all of the old consoles and still do. However, the Switch will be the first Nintendo console that I will most likely pass on."

I don't understand comments like this when the system isn't out, we don't know the full extent of its library or the system's features.

For all you know it could have a price cut, a redesign with a better battery, a bunch of games you want to play and excellent online services a year or two from now.

It just seems weird to have a predetermined mindset towards a device that isn't even out yet.

the OP makes loads of assumptions and flat out just pulls things from their imaginations in the original post.

They claim that the handheld market is dead (absurd, the 3DS is selling quite well, in fact it sold better in 2016 than 2015, despite being 5 years old), they claim that the Switch is SPECIFICALLY the 3DS successor (when its the successor to both the Wii U and 3DS, its a combination hybrid),

they seem incapable of accepting the fact that it is in fact a hybrid system. Its not rocket science. Maybe bitter about their Wii U purchase. 

they wrote a lot of outlandish stuff, like the concept that someone can just walk in and buy Nintendo's shares of the Pokemon Company (that cannot be done). Nintendo owns a portion of Game Freak, a portion of Hal lab, and a portion of the Pok Company. Also an easily forgotten fact is that Nintendo staff members FOUNDED Pokemon

The OP is just full of so much BS. It claims that the online service does or doesn't provide things when the online service for the Switch most likely hasn't even been finished yet. They claim things about the battery life when it hasn't even been tested officially (note: if you tried to run an open world game on ANY tablet in the world right now, the battery would last far less than normal)

just a load of hogwash. you can be as bitter as you want, but to make a list of things in the OP that are purely speculation and then to deliberately act as if the Switch is not a hybrid just makes it hard to take your opinion seriously whatsoever. Obviously the Switch is the quintessential concept of a hybrid system. On the TV and on the Go



Renna Hazel said:
KLAMarine said:

Holy smokes!..

 

What do you do then?

Occasionally look at the sales numbers. Some of the Switch topics on the main page caught my eye so I figured I'd give my two cents and accomplish nothing by doing so. I'll go back to lurking soon enough.  

Hey, don't be a stranger now. I like me a good chat.



zorg1000 said:
"I own all of the old consoles and still do. However, the Switch will be the first Nintendo console that I will most likely pass on."

I don't understand comments like this when the system isn't out, we don't know the full extent of its library or the system's features.

For all you know it could have a price cut, a redesign with a better battery, a bunch of games you want to play and excellent online services a year or two from now.

It just seems weird to have a predetermined mindset towards a device that isn't even out yet.

Read the last comment in the OP. I'd like to hope the predictions don't come true, but I see way too much of a resemblence between the WiiU and the Switch.

If the device does indeed get decent 3rd party support and no large droughts, I'll be happy to say that I'm wrong.



Renna Hazel said:
Nah. It's nice to have different options for hardware. Sony and MS offer too similar of a product. I'd rather have a PS4orXBO and Switch as opposed to a PS4 and XBO.

I'm pretty sure the choice of hardware massively increases if they go 3rd party.



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