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Final-Fan on 19 January 2017

I'm not saying I think I'm a naive cop. I'm just saying that Linkz's role makes me less than 100% confident I'm not.



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Final-Fan on 19 January 2017

^ Linkz and hat combined. I was fairly surprised that he came up town, but given the strange nature of this setup I'm willing to buy it, as long as the mass claim ends up with no redirector.



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My advice to fanboys: Brag about stuff that's true, not about stuff that's false. Predict stuff that's likely, not stuff that's unlikely. You will be happier, and we will be happier.

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theprof00 on 19 January 2017

I can potentially see a busdriver switching hats with zero, which would solve at least one motivator issue.
However, it wouldn't explain why zero would be blocked. And further wouldn't explain why noc didn't receive a message.
I could also potentially see noctis lying and scum simply gets the info from dead players.
Additionally, it doesn't solve why we still had two deaths last night.
Like I said, until we hear exactly who got switched around, the best we can do is use good old scumhunting.
And like I said, we already have some candidates.



Clyde32 on 19 January 2017

Here's my theory.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Lightning_Rod



hatmoza on 19 January 2017
Clyde32 said:
Here's my theory.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Lightning_Rod

Ah nice. Did you stumble across that while you were searching for a suitable role to fakeclaim?

Admit it that's exactly what happened.



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theprof00 on 19 January 2017

There's potential there, but also doesn't explain hat being blocked.
Also, maybe instead of a lightning rod, a lightningrod-izer?



Clyde32 on 19 January 2017

You're right, it doesn't explain Hat being blocked. That's a very good point.



Clyde32 on 19 January 2017

But a roleblocker and lightning rod setup would likely have the roleblocker performing an action first, because otherwise you have a loop unless the roleblocker specifically targets the lightning rod.

In a case like that, a roleblocker targeting anyone other than the lightning rod wouldn't be drawn in because then it would block a role that was already activated, and that causes all kinds of problems.



Clyde32 on 19 January 2017

EBWOP: "in a case like that" should be in a case with this setup.



hatmoza on 19 January 2017

Why the hell aren't you role claiming Clyde. Your active that's apparent enough so there's no reason for you to completely ignore the several calls for mass claiming. This evasiveness has removed any small doubt I had of you not being scum.

I wasn't joking when I implied that your clicking through the mafia wiki looking for a suitable fake claim.

Regardless of you miz and sword's claim my vote is likely going to you regardless due to your dancing around claiming.



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