Umm... That analogy of PCs replacing consoles is heavily flawed. The form factor is nothing alike... No casuals ever sees a PC as a console even before getting into the capabilities of both... Where as with the Switch vs Tablets, the form factor is very alike... I doubt casuals will see things the way you are describing since tablets have been around for quite sometime now. And while dedicated gaming won't be fully replaced, the competition from smartphones/tablets is most certainly taking away the customers. The 3ds won't even make it to PSP level and that is most certainly due to those devices taking away sales.

Yea I highly doubt that it would have sold this much without that price cut. Yea it shifted a lot prior but its about continuing to sell in the long term otherwise why would Nintendo do such a hefty price cut in the first place? The 2ds sold the worst but thats cause the 3ds was priced marginally higher and both are in my impluse buy category when the 2ds came out.. Also the 2ds came out in 2013 vs 3ds came out in 2011.

And also guess what? The DS sold almost twice the amount that the psp did and that was in my impluse buy category... And the PSP had one competitor where as the 3ds has many from the likes of Apple, Samsung and etc.

Except the are mini PCs that share the same form factor as consoles so no it's not flawed going by your own logic, in fact many early consoles shared similar form facters with computers, casuals will see it exactly how I described it because that's how the unveil and marketing so far has portrayed it.

No it still would have sold that much as in the long run it would have gotten a price cut anyway only a bit later on, they were mistaken to think the problem was price which is why they did the cut when the actual problem was software output. Under your own logic 2DS should be selling the most but it's not, the higher priced models are, I don't get your point about when the 2DS was released because that's still 4 years ago, under the stance you're arguing the 2DS in that 4 years should be the top selling model but it isn't, what further contradicts your argument is you're arguing tablets and phones when those are well above impulse buy prices and often require someone to enter a service provider contract, this flat out indicates that impulse buy range is far wider than you're arguing.

DS sold more than PSP and? You seem to not understand the point that it still sold well at a price point you're arguing against when the was what is the strongest copetitor any dedicated gaming platform could face, in fact it's one of the top selling portable platforms in history.

Ugh! 4 days left! 

Oh ok, so instead of just PCs, its now only mini-PCs... When most people think about PCs, they don't think about mini-PCs, they think about PCs as being a mid-sized tower that is hooked up to a monitor used with a mouse and a keyboard. When people think about consoles, they think about a small form factor hooked up to the living room TV used with a controller. What you are talking about isn't even what the causals think about when someone mentions a PC. Most mini-PCs found at the local store aren't even gaming PCs and the ones that are usually aren't found at a place where casuals generally go. It's not that hard to see why they aren't alike.

Uh huh... Or it wasn't a mistake and the price cut along with software is what made it continue to sell well... And no, not under my logic. I never said the lower priced model should sell better than the higher priced models. The entire point of me saying "impluse buy" pricing is to suggest that impluse buy devices should have the ability to sell more than non-impluse buy devices in the same category. If both devices are in the impluse buy category, then it won't matter since the price difference is so marginal. And that is exactly what the DS did vs the PSP.

Oh and the strongest competitor that any dedicated gaming handheld can face is smartphones which is exactly what is happening since the start of the 3ds/vita generation.

Would be a good price, if the power is decent, though was confirmed to be false

Don't make me laugh with your attempt to dodge the point a mini PC is a PC simple as that, only difference is the form factor which is closer to consoles which your logic is arguing. Do you know why people don't think of them when they think of PCs? Because in general PCs are pretty much established for mainly their desktop like features and multi functions much like the name Nintendo is established with gaming mainly hence Switch will not be seen as a tablet first in anyway, You can also find mini PCs in any electronics store, in UK I can just walk into Currys or PC World which are common chains and see them.

Except the price cut made no difference which undermines your whole argument about it. PSP outsold DS in the west in the first year or so which again undermines your impulse buy arguments here, DS went on to outsell it in the long because of software output and the addition and utilization of touch screen which in turn went on to inspire Apple with the iPod touch and iPhone. Impulse buy pricing is nothing more than a vastly affordable, Wii had it, DS had, PSP had it etc... Guess what also had it? The GC.

No phones aren't the strongest competitor, what happened with the 3DS/Vita gen is that the gen just normalized after an unusual gen this is made more clear by the performance of home consoles which are also down for all 3 platform holders. No dedicated gamer is going to only opt for a phone or tablet because it can't replicate the dedicate experience, last Gen the DS and the Wii had an indirect affect in which they brought gaming to the attention of the masses who normally ignore it causing sales to explode right across the board resulting in an anomaly. This gen everything has just returned to the normal condensed scale gaming is at. For reference before the DS the GBA sold 80m when it was the only portable around, this gen the 3DS and Vita in total are closing in on 80m and their gen will likely end with a total above 80m meaning no decline ever really took place just a normalization of things returning to how they were before the blue ocean as the total number of portable units move has remained the same as when the GBA was around.

How is it an attempt to dodge? You are the one changing from PCs to mini-PCs to try and make your argument stick. Yea mini-PCs are PCs but that is a sub-category of PCs that are sold and not what the general PC that is sold looks like to the masses. Also I said mini Gaming PCs aren't usually found in the local store, not mini-pcs... If you try to play AAA games with any normal mini-PC, it will say nope. And its not that simple since your inital argument of PCs vs consoles is about why PCs hasn't replaced consoles and one of the reasons continues to be what casuals think of the form factor of PCs. Because in order for PCs to even begin to replace consoles, PCs must be seen like consoles to the casuals which it isn't. And that is how the casuals will see the switch being a tablet first and a "console on the go" second. Because PCs have been around for so long that when casuals think about PCs, they think about it's form factor. When casuals think about tablets, they also think about its form factor which the Switch certainly has. 

Or price did make a difference in the long run and during that holiday season. And the PSP outselling the DS in the west for the first year doesn't mean the price didn't help... If the DS was priced as high as the PSP, the PSP possibly could have outsold it world wide and maybe even gotten closer or beat the DS. And exactly what is my impluse buy argument that you are so determined to prove wrong? I never said impluse buy automatically means more sales, I have always said that it helps a buyer choose more easily...

So 15 million Vita sales is normal to you? Okay there... Yes, GBA sold 80 million by itself... Together, the 3ds and Vita will be around that number and yea, the dedicated gamer won't move to smartphones but every generation has its fair share of casual gamers including this generation which are moving to smartphones/tablets proven by 2 platforms bearly able to make the sales of a single platform. 

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It's an attempt to dodge the point because you're there arguing that form factor is what dictates things yet here you are using sematics to argue PCs and Mini PCs, the clue is in the name for you (PC), mini PC is a PC in a different form factor much like you have desktops and towers. Under the form factor logic you're arguing people should be mistaking these as consoles first right? No you even know this, why because PCs are established as something else something you've acknowledge and try to dodge as an argument because it shoots down your whole form factor stance. Nintendo is seen primarily as a gaming company having been in it for ages, people will see Switch primarily as the next GB/DS/Hybrid that uses a tablet like design but will not see it as a tablet because of the same reasons they don't see PCs as consoles.

DS and PSP were both priced with in impulse range for what they offered, you're arguing that impulse range is much more narrow than what it actually is I'm pointing out that it's simply not the case.

Your are aware of how non Nintendo portables performed before Sony tried their luck right? Non of them even came with in a sniff of 15m it was a monopoly for Nintendo, 15m Vitas is very normal because along with the 3DS the total number of portable units that will be sold this gen will be well with in range of what has normally been sold pre-DS in fact this time next year they'll surpass the GBA sales, only difference is that it's not a monopoly like before. Had the GBA had another dedicated gaming platform as competent competiton it's 80m sales would have been eaten into as well, the actual number of consumers has not dropped the DS/Wii era was just an anomaly everything has normalized.

It is very much about semantics because a mini-PC is a sub-category of PC and since your argument is about why PC hasn't taken over the consoles, it is about public perception of the form factor of PCs first and then other things second. Just because PC's can be found in smaller form factor doesn't mean the public sees the smaller form factor version when thinking about PCs hence why the form factor argument stands. And people will see the Switch as a tablet because like PCs that has had an established form factor when the casuals think about them as being mid-tower desktops, the Switch will be seen as a tablet for the very same reason.

Well you havn't exactly proven me wrong with that. The only thing you seemed to have tried to do with your arguments is try to prove that what I'd call impluse buy range devices should sell higher than ones that aren't and the ones that are priced higher should sell considerably worse which certainly isn't my argument. Sure the PSP sold well but that doesn't mean that I am wrong in my impluse buy range since that pricing is meant to help the buyer choose more easily which can be argued that it did considering the DS and etc. Of course, it doesn't mean that being within that price range will make sales happen automatically since sales always comes from a combination of things. All impluse buy pricing does is help the buyer choose more easily.

But it's not such a fixed variable. Because as an example, apart from Sega, there weren't exactly many consoles which came close to the sales of Nintendo consoles back then. And then Sony came and far surpassed Nintendo consoles with the ps1 and then the ps2 and etc which increased the size. So I wouldn't call Vita sales is perfectly normal cause the market isn't a fixed variable and just because it didn't happen pre-DS shouldn't be the case. Cause Sony came with the PSP which sold really well. Since the PSP was such a success, the Vita should have sold a lot more than 15 million even with the so called "abnormal" market during the DS era.