Nikkei rumor: Nintendo Switch to cost 25000 yen ( probably 250$/250€)

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Wyrdness said:

Captain_Yuri said:

Oh ok, so instead of just PCs, its now only mini-PCs... When most people think about PCs, they don't think about mini-PCs, they think about PCs as being a mid-sized tower that is hooked up to a monitor. When people think about consoles, they think about a small form factor hooked up to the living room TV. What you are talking about isn't even what the causals think about when someone mentions a PC. Most mini-PCs aren't even gaming PCs and the ones that are usually aren't found at a place where casuals generally go. It's not that hard to see why they aren't alike.

Uh huh... Or it wasn't a mistake and the price cut along with software is what made it continue to sell well... And no, not under my logic. I never said the lower priced model should sell better than the higher priced models. The entire point of me saying "impluse buy" pricing is to suggest that impluse buy devices should have the ability to sell more than non-impluse buy devices in the same category. If both devices are in the impluse buy category, then it won't matter since the price difference is so marginal. And that is exactly what the DS did vs the PSP.

Oh and the strongest competitor that any dedicated gaming handheld can face is smartphones which is exactly what is happening since the start of the 3ds/vita generation.

Don't make me laugh with your attempt to dodge the point a mini PC is a PC simple as that, only difference is the form factor which is closer to consoles which your logic is arguing. Do you know why people don't think of them when they think of PCs? Because in general PCs are pretty much established for mainly their desktop like features and multi functions much like the name Nintendo is established with gaming mainly hence Switch will not be seen as a tablet first in anyway, You can also find mini PCs in any electronics store, in UK I can just walk into Currys or PC World which are common chains and see them.

Except the price cut made no difference which undermines your whole argument about it. PSP outsold DS in the west in the first year or so which again undermines your impulse buy arguments here, DS went on to outsell it in the long because of software output and the addition and utilization of touch screen which in turn went on to inspire Apple with the iPod touch and iPhone. Impulse buy pricing is nothing more than a vastly affordable, Wii had it, DS had, PSP had it etc... Guess what also had it? The GC.

No phones aren't the strongest competitor, what happened with the 3DS/Vita gen is that the gen just normalized after an unusual gen this is made more clear by the performance of home consoles which are also down for all 3 platform holders. No dedicated gamer is going to only opt for a phone or tablet because it can't replicate the dedicate experience, last Gen the DS and the Wii had an indirect affect in which they brought gaming to the attention of the masses who normally ignore it causing sales to explode right across the board resulting in an anomaly. This gen everything has just returned to the normal condensed scale gaming is at. For reference before the DS the GBA sold 80m when it was the only portable around, this gen the 3DS and Vita in total are closing in on 80m and their gen will likely end with a total above 80m meaning no decline ever really took place just a normalization of things returning to how they were before the blue ocean as the total number of portable units move has remained the same as when the GBA was around.

How is it an attempt to dodge? You are the one changing from PCs to mini-PCs to try and make your argument stick. Yea mini-PCs are PCs but that is a sub-category of PCs that are sold and not what the general PC that is sold looks like to the masses. Also I said mini Gaming PCs aren't usually found in the local store, not mini-pcs... If you try to play AAA games with any normal mini-PC, it will say nope. And its not that simple since your inital argument of PCs vs consoles is about why PCs hasn't replaced consoles and one of the reasons continues to be what casuals think of the form factor of PCs. Because in order for PCs to even begin to replace consoles, PCs must be seen like consoles to the casuals which it isn't. And that is how the casuals will see the switch being a tablet first and a "console on the go" second. Because PCs have been around for so long that when casuals think about PCs, they think about it's form factor. When casuals think about tablets, they also think about its form factor which the Switch certainly has. 

Or price did make a difference in the long run and during that holiday season. And the PSP outselling the DS in the west for the first year doesn't mean the price didn't help... If the DS was priced as high as the PSP, the PSP possibly could have outsold it world wide and maybe even gotten closer or beat the DS. And exactly what is my impluse buy argument that you are so determined to prove wrong? I never said impluse buy automatically means more sales, I have always said that it helps a buyer choose more easily...

So 15 million Vita sales is normal to you? Okay there... Yes, GBA sold 80 million by itself... Together, the 3ds and Vita will be around that number and yea, the dedicated gamer won't move to smartphones but every generation has its fair share of casual gamers including this generation which are moving to smartphones/tablets proven by 2 platforms bearly able to make the sales of a single platform.