See, this is what I meant by making the mod decision more transparent. We don't even know why the mods you chose are so well suited for their job. It's the Game Awards all over again.
Also name one real worst case scenario that would disqualify Rol from being a mod.
And yes, this is a serious post for once.
If you demand respect or gratitude for your volunteer work, you're doing volunteering wrong.
| vivster said: See, this is what I meant by making the mod decision more transparent. We don't even know why the mods you chose are so well suited for their job. It's the Game Awards all over again. Also name one real worst case scenario that would disqualify Rol from being a mod. And yes, this is a serious post for once. |
So happy they made this moderator thread for frequent and open discussion.
If you demand respect or gratitude for your volunteer work, you're doing volunteering wrong.
Ka-pi96 said:
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Not that anyone would look directly into the forums. Everyone's just using the front page hot topics.
But I get it, it's just too difficult to have a thread subscription feature like every single other forum on this planet. It's just not feasable.
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Here's an example of a moderation that I can't understand:
(from the Most Old Games are Terrible by Today's Standards thread)
foodfather 3 days ago
Somewhat agree.
I didn't grow up with Nintendo or playstation. So when I got into gaming (pc and xbox) with the likes of Halo and Splinter cell I found most of the games on other platforms unplayable. Especially Japanese ones like Onimusha and countless number of moronic hack n slash games like DMC and GOW.
Golden Era for me was 2003 - 2008. Since then games have been quite stale.
User moderated -Aura7541
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Ka-pi96 said:
Pretty easy to understand for me. Calling DMC & GOW "moronic hack n slash games" is a violation of rule 8 point 1 "Do not say that item A sucks, or that item B is better than item C. Give reasons why, and provide evidence (articles, screenshots, technical information, even opinion etc)." and rule 10 point 1 "the forums are here for all gamers. Unless you're in a thread specifically geared towards platform or game comparison/discussion, keep your anti-platform/game comments to yourself. There is a difference between reasonable argument, and trolling." Slamming a game by calling it moronic without actually backing that comment up isn't really a good way to post in the first place, but add in the anti-platform implications as well and it's understandable why it was reported/moderated. |
Let me rephrase - This moderation, in my eyes, is unreasonable. It may well be a result of a bad rule. But, whatever the reason, moderating posts like this is a step or two beyond what I believe is necessary to maintain a decent forum. And, I see a lot of moderations like this.
So, I saw that Kerotan was banned, so I checked to see what he did, and much to my surprise, apparently there's a list of people that are banned from talking to him. I didn't even know that rule existed on here.
RolStoppable said:
It's a strange solution that clearly favors Kerotan. The problem is that things tend to escalate when he posts what he usually posts, but instead of punishing Kerotan for it, the people who get often baited by him got a restriction put on them. The result is that Kerotan can keep posting what he usually posts. Basically, the mod team tackled the effect instead of the cause. As far as I know, the "don't talk to specific user" rule that is in place here cuts both ways, so Kerotan isn't allowed to quote the people on this list either, but this isn't balanced because Kerotan is almost always the initiator of derailment. I have nothing against finding special solutions for special circumstances (meaning that the official forum rules don't list such measures), but these solutions need to target the root cause of an issue. We are way beyond the point where the innocent-lamb-card could apply to Kerotan. |
Well, many of his posts definitely are bait worthy. To be honest, I'm mainly a PlayStation fan (even if I don't really support any company) and a lot of his comments were so overly positive towards them that it pissed me off, so I can imagine how it bothers others. The problem is that a lot of the posts themselves when taken individually are rather harmless, but when given context and put together it's a lot more obvious.
RolStoppable said:
It's what I call trolling with unjustified positivity. Unjustified negativity can quickly lead to moderations, so someone who has a grasp of the forum rules will look for ways to troll without getting punished. In Kerotan's case it's so clear what his intent is that the question isn't if he is really exploiting the rules, but rather how a stop can be put to it. The solution I propose is that unjustified positivity becomes moderable, at least when it's done in mid to high frequency and is verifiably detrimental to discussions. |
I agree that this is something which we need to be more on top of, this type of thing can kill threads and start flamewars the same way that regular trolling can.
What did I do wrong this time ?
Calling a troll a troll is sometimes necessary. Who cares about making the rule more subjective than the current blanket rule. I think moderators should decide whether the guy is an obvious troll or not. If not ban the guy calling people trolls and if so ban the guy trolling. I trust moderators to have the intelligence to judge the trolliness of a person. Sometimes people waist many comments replying to obvious trolls. Calling them trolls makes other people realise that they are not worth discussing with because they are not serious about their opinions and replies. It is for the info of other people so that they don't have anyone replying to them and hence not being able to troll
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I blame the stickies. It only shows 3 (this thread isn't one of them) so it's easy to miss that there have been new posts for it 
