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If Xbox had 15 more million units sold I doubt Phil would be saying anything because he'd probably still just be the head of MGS and not the head of Xbox in its entirety. The only reason he was promoted is because the previous regime fucked the brand so hard with the Xbone launch. So 15 million more sold and of course it would be an entirely different story. You can play that game with every company in every direction. After all, these are all corporations and all are after your money.



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Its business Phil, grow a pair and compete.



LudicrousSpeed said:
If Xbox had 15 more million units sold I doubt Phil would be saying anything because he'd probably still just be the head of MGS and not the head of Xbox in its entirety. The only reason he was promoted is because the previous regime fucked the brand so hard with the Xbone launch. So 15 million more sold and of course it would be an entirely different story. You can play that game with every company in every direction. After all, these are all corporations and all are after your money.

I guess it's just an inconvenient truth that Phil was part of the regime that fucked the brand so hard, huh?



thismeintiel said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
If Xbox had 15 more million units sold I doubt Phil would be saying anything because he'd probably still just be the head of MGS and not the head of Xbox in its entirety. The only reason he was promoted is because the previous regime fucked the brand so hard with the Xbone launch. So 15 million more sold and of course it would be an entirely different story. You can play that game with every company in every direction. After all, these are all corporations and all are after your money.

I guess it's just an inconvenient truth that Phil was part of the regime that fucked the brand so hard, huh?

Of course he was part of that regime. You can speculate (on the negative end of the spectrum, naturally) how much influence he had, but logic would dictate if he had as much influence as you'd like us to believe, he'd have quietly moved on like all the others. But instead he's not only still there but now he's the Xboss.

Either way how much influence he had is irrelevant. You said he'd be singing a different tune with different strategies had their sales increased 15 million, I am just pointing out that's a worthless observation because they ALL would be singing different tunes with much different strategies in that scenario :)



LudicrousSpeed said:
thismeintiel said:

I guess it's just an inconvenient truth that Phil was part of the regime that fucked the brand so hard, huh?

Of course he was part of that regime. You can speculate (on the negative end of the spectrum, naturally) how much influence he had, but logic would dictate if he had as much influence as you'd like us to believe, he'd have quietly moved on like all the others. But instead he's not only still there but now he's the Xboss.

Either way how much influence he had is irrelevant. You said he'd be singing a different tune with different strategies had their sales increased 15 million, I am just pointing out that's a worthless observation because they ALL would be singing different tunes with much different strategies in that scenario :)

And I'm sure you'll speculate on the most positive end of that spectrum (naturally ).  Of course, that would be naive.  Saying he had little to do with the direction of Xbox is like saying Shuhei Yoshida has little to do with the direction of PS.  And they have been in different positions, just last gen.  Sony wasn't bitching and moaning about "unfair" business practices from MS.  Nor were they underhandedly trying to bypass exclusive marketing deals that MS had worked out.  They humbled themselves and made a much better plan for this gen.  MS should really try to do the same, cause the constant hypocritical crying is getting old.



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Yep any timed exclusive hinders growth. Console makers, should build on their own content, which Ninty and Sony are most fruitful at.



thismeintiel said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

Of course he was part of that regime. You can speculate (on the negative end of the spectrum, naturally) how much influence he had, but logic would dictate if he had as much influence as you'd like us to believe, he'd have quietly moved on like all the others. But instead he's not only still there but now he's the Xboss.

Either way how much influence he had is irrelevant. You said he'd be singing a different tune with different strategies had their sales increased 15 million, I am just pointing out that's a worthless observation because they ALL would be singing different tunes with much different strategies in that scenario :)

And I'm sure you'll speculate on the most positive end of that spectrum (naturally ).  Of course, that would be naive.  Saying he had little to do with the direction of Xbox is like saying Shuhei Yoshida has little to do with the direction of PS.  And they have been in different positions, just last gen.  Sony wasn't bitching and moaning about "unfair" business practices from MS.  Nor were they underhandedly trying to bypass exclusive marketing deals that MS had worked out.  They humbled themselves and made a much better plan for this gen.  MS should really try to do the same, cause the constant hypocritical crying is getting old.



It seems that just using propaganda and by outright telling lies it is still possible to influence so many people, which is bothersome because the internet, twitter etc was expected to bring transparency.



LudicrousSpeed said:
If Xbox had 15 more million units sold I doubt Phil would be saying anything because he'd probably still just be the head of MGS and not the head of Xbox in its entirety. The only reason he was promoted is because the previous regime fucked the brand so hard with the Xbone launch. So 15 million more sold and of course it would be an entirely different story. You can play that game with every company in every direction. After all, these are all corporations and all are after your money.

Except he was the old regime 



Haven't he been in MS the whole time of CoD timed DLC exclusivity?



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