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Mar1217 said:
Jpcc86 said:
They wont. Most of them, like Fromsoftware and Bethesda are only gonna port old games to the console, so strictly speaking Nintendo can claim they have their support, even tho they are only going to port old game or make some shitty spinoff like Squareenix does

???

Maybe referring to Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Echoes of Time & Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers for the Wii?

I've never played them but from what I hear it's mediocre at best.

But I agree with Jpcc86 that ports/spin off are likely the best bet from 3rd party support.  I find it difficult to believe the Switch will get any huge AAA 3rd party exclusive either.



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1. Switch will be more popular and it will have better sales than Wii U, and it won't be failed console in its 1st year like Wii U.
2. Development and porting for Switch is much easier compared to Wii U because new tech/architecture and tools Nvidia specifically made for easy development/porting for Switch.
3. With ports on Switch, 3rd party will have their games in portable mode also.
4. Nintendo now have have better communication and approach for 3rd parties.
5. Nvidia influenced that some 3rd partys support Switch.



Miyamotoo said:
1. Switch will be more popular and it will have better sales than Wii U, and it won't be failed console in its 1st year like Wii U.
2. Development and porting for Switch is much easier compared to Wii U because new tech/architecture and tools Nvidia specifically made for easy development/porting for Switch.
3. With ports on Switch, 3rd party will have their games in portable mode also.
4. Nintendo now have have better communication and approach for 3rd parties.
5. Nvidia influenced that some 3rd partys support Switch.

1.you can't know that

2. agreed

3.I don't why they should care about that, but ok.

4.you can't know that either

5.and you can't know that either.

Maybe rephrase it as something you think might be happening. Because only 2. is a fact, the rest is just suppositions



It's not a traditional home console. Stop thinking of it as such. Nintendo is just pushing that "console" line because they still want to sell 3DS this holiday season (and they are correct to do so, the 3DS had a decent November with 555k sold in NPD) and they need to justify $59.99 game prices.

Even on Nintendo's Japanese site (the main site) they don't refer to it as a home console, just as their new system, it's only oddly for the other country sites that Nintendo describes it as a home console first. 

This is for all practical purposes though the successor to the Nintendo portable line.

And sure there are probably some devs who would've made games on 3DS if the hardware wasn't so badly underpowered. Switch is basically their chance to do so.

Lots of devs have perfectly good PS3/360 engines sitting around if their PS4/XB1 engines are too much of a pain to port, and being able to play PS3/360 tier games on the road is well ... better than playing I dunno like N64/PS2 era ports. 

If you think about it as a console and think this is a pissing match with PS4/XB1 (and soon PS5 and Scorpio) for third party games, you're going to be bitterly dissapointed. If you just think of it as the 3DS successor with a HDMI out, the type of support it'll get will likely be satisfactory to you. Just depends on how you want to look at it. 



I am 0% convinced skyrim will even appear on the Switch, as far as I could tell it was simply video playing for marketing purposes.

Dark souls? Yeah sure... we'll see about that next month too...



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To get lucky. If Switch succeeds, they'll want to have been there to establish themselves to sell their software. They can tout all the 3rd party support they want, at the end of the day the same developers who supported 3DS will support Switch and that's really all Nintendo needs to have a successful console.



setsunatenshi said:
I am 0% convinced skyrim will even appear on the Switch, as far as I could tell it was simply video playing for marketing purposes.

Dark souls? Yeah sure... we'll see about that next month too...

I think both will be on Switch, but really what is the big deal with Skyrim?

It's a 5 year old game, lol, whoopity doo. 

Japanese developers I think will actually try reasonably on the Switch though, but for obvious reasons ... Switch figures to be the dominant game platform in Japan, so they have no choice but to take it seriously. 

Unlike the DS/3DS as well, Nintendo's never had a portable this close to current generation Japanese games either (even if the specs are underwhelming to some). 



setsunatenshi said:
I am 0% convinced skyrim will even appear on the Switch, as far as I could tell it was simply video playing for marketing purposes.

Dark souls? Yeah sure... we'll see about that next month too...

I see no possible future where it is not a launch title. Even if we are saying that the Switch Wii U power when undocked, the trailer came out in October. Nintendo knew what games they would have on the Switch by then. There are 100 different games that they could have chosen outside of Skyrim if they weren't sure that it was coming to the Switch.

Also, Todd Howard said this:

Can you really bring Skyrim with you on the go (on Switch)?
It's the same game on the TV and on the other screen.

A statement that makes no sense if it wasn't coming to the Switch.



maxleresistant said:
Miyamotoo said:
1. Switch will be more popular and it will have better sales than Wii U, and it won't be failed console in its 1st year like Wii U.
2. Development and porting for Switch is much easier compared to Wii U because new tech/architecture and tools Nvidia specifically made for easy development/porting for Switch.
3. With ports on Switch, 3rd party will have their games in portable mode also.
4. Nintendo now have have better communication and approach for 3rd parties.
5. Nvidia influenced that some 3rd partys support Switch.

1.you can't know that

2. agreed

3.I don't why they should care about that, but ok.

4.you can't know that either

5.and you can't know that either.

Maybe rephrase it as something you think might be happening. Because only 2. is a fact, the rest is just suppositions

I didn't said that all reasons I listed are facts, but IMO possible reasons why 3rd party supporting Switch.

And about point 1., offcourse that Switch will be more popular than Wii U in any case.



setsunatenshi said:
I am 0% convinced skyrim will even appear on the Switch, as far as I could tell it was simply video playing for marketing purposes.

Dark souls? Yeah sure... we'll see about that next month too...

Too bad for you, because Bethesda confirmed Skyrim for Switch.