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Is it messed up Nvidia are selling consoles, when they supply chips to Nintendo's Switch?

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EricHiggin said:

I would have to assume there is some sort of non-compete clause between Nvidia and NiN in this case. NiN won't use Tegra to make a dedicated home console, and Nvidia won't use Tegra to make a handheld/hybrid.

Would it be possible that NiN and Nvidia are working together, and that the new Shield will be compatible with Switch and play NiN physical and digital games? Maybe Shield can run NiN's new OS? Nvidia is maybe pushing Shield games to Switch, and in return gets NiN games on Shield? (somehow, someway, NiN wins big in this deal regardless, whatever the scenario might be between them)

Maybe a new more powerful Shield is a proof of concept for NiN, to try and sell them on a dedicated Switch home console?

What's the point of a docking station then?



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Random_Matt said:
EricHiggin said:

I would have to assume there is some sort of non-compete clause between Nvidia and NiN in this case. NiN won't use Tegra to make a dedicated home console, and Nvidia won't use Tegra to make a handheld/hybrid.

Would it be possible that NiN and Nvidia are working together, and that the new Shield will be compatible with Switch and play NiN physical and digital games? Maybe Shield can run NiN's new OS? Nvidia is maybe pushing Shield games to Switch, and in return gets NiN games on Shield? (somehow, someway, NiN wins big in this deal regardless, whatever the scenario might be between them)

Maybe a new more powerful Shield is a proof of concept for NiN, to try and sell them on a dedicated Switch home console?

What's the point of a docking station then?

That would be NiN using their brand power. Nvidia wants to party with NiN, their going to have to bring the booze.

NiN could have just wanted to try and keep it's home console crowd they have now, as well as gain many mobile gamers, without losing any 3DS gamers. I can see Nvidia caving to this request. To add power to the dock probably would have been pushing it to far, but a simple AV dock, big deal.



PS1   - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.

PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.

The only thing I find "messed up" is the premise of the thread,
which questions the legitimacy of NVIDIA continuing exactly the same business that they have been in for years,
simply because Nintendo has now decided to use their technology for their own hybrid console.

I just don't see how this is different to, say, Toyota selling an engine to Lotus while not stopping selling Toyota cars.

Fanboys love to pretend how Nintendo is unique and special and everything,
but the fact of the matter is the basic tech is not unique, it is not technically advanced, it is downclock of lastgen technology.
The fact Nintendo can run such a business, should not impede the normal progression of gaming tech elsewhere in Shield 2.

And yes, obviously there is no technical reason Nintendo's games couldn't run at higher performance on Shield 2 (or even 1).
Hugely unlikely Nintendo will allow that, and with controlling e-store and cart infrastructure, they have means to achieve that.
Although to be honest, it seems plausible that people could hack together a solution that spoofs e-store/cart verification system.
Really, I'm not sure why Nintendo should be scared of that, it's not like consoles themselves are/should be source of profit.
If Nintendo can also sell games to Shield 2 owners who bought console that plays Nintendo games at higher peformance, WHY NOT?



First, I don't think Android was meant for gaming. Second, this next-gen shield box doesn't seem meant for mobile gaming: it doesn't have a screen on it.



The shield is not going to compete directly with the switch, for a number of reasons. I think I'm not going to use the internet for a while cause these threads are funny stuff and I'm don't want to get a permanent ban, see ya soon folks!



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This is purely a 3rd party me-too box. This is why even the current shield TV is not flying off the shelves. People who buy the games it offers, will buy PS4/XBO.

NS has things none of these other consoles have:
1) Nintendo games
2) Portability
3) Insane local multiplayer options
4) Insane controller configurations

1 and 2 alone are big enough but 3 and 4 are going to be huge, I think, for competitive gaming.



FunFan said:
Was that controller designed on a Jaguar? Where did it learn to fly?

Lol. Nice. XD



run switch games?



How in the world does a console compete with a handheld?



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superchunk said:
This is purely a 3rd party me-too box.

That would be a stretch, as it's not "3rd party" but made by the same party designing the guts of Switch.
NVIDIA got into making their own console box exactly because they believed in their chips that weren't seeing large success.
Nintendo has now licenced Tegra just as NVIDIA is introducing the next gen, so if anything Switch is the "me-too" here.
Hell, Nintendo is even using NVIDIA's API for the software stack.  

jonathanalis said:
run switch games?

Except as attention paid to technical details would suggest, there is no technical impediment to doing that, no emulation needed.
Only issue is getting the Nintendo games on local storage, which if Nintendo does not directly authorize means of doing so,
would require some hackery of either e-store or cart verification process, which is not exactly out of realms of possibility.
The only "downside" would be that the games would likely not benefit from the increase of power unless they were variable FPS.
(or further hackery enabled increasing the games' internal display buffer size)

Would Nintendo fanboys "look down on" anybody playing Nintendo games on unauthorized console made by Nintendo's very own supplier?
Even if they manage to get better performance and graphics out of it then Nintendo's downclocked/obsolete model?