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zorg1000 said:
Dont be a dick, i knew what you wrote and you didnt have to repeat yourself because it doesnt change what i said, regardless of having a dock that can boost performance, the form factor of Switch still makes that impossible.
So having a more recent/more advanced chip & a bigger battery wouldn't affect the price, size or heat? Like I said earlier, it would have to be a bigger and more expensive device in order to pull that off.
Now it seems like you aren't properly reading, THE BIGGER THE GAP IN POWER BETWEEN DOCK & UNDOCKED MODE, THE MORE DIFFICULT IT WILL BE TO OPTIMIZE FOR BOTH. The rumors say that Switch is easy to develop for in its current form, would that hold true if the gap between docked & undocked mode was significantly greater? Probably not.
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I wasn't being a dick, I was countering your point, it does change what you said.
Actually, it wouldn't affect the price. If Nintendo didn't make AS MUCH money as they're most likely planning to on every unit sold, than it could stay at 250$. I'm not saying Nintendo should take a loss on the console, they could still make a profit. But let's be realistic here, this is NINTENDO. Do you really think the Switch's cost is even close to the cost it is to buy one? Imagine if Nintendo just made a little bit less profit. I know you're gonna say "i'm expecting to much" ... but not really. When the Playstation 4 first launched do you want to know how much Sony got with each unit released? 11$. And Now Sony is having their first profitable year this year in three years simply because the Playstation brand has made them 78.6% of their current profit for this year. Hell I'm not even saying Nintendo should make chump change for the console, but let's be honest, for how "revolutionary" the Switch technology is...the Specs could still be better for the speculated price. If this is 300, which is completely possible, my point would be increased even further.
Also about the heat...yea dude...30% of the Tegra's power undocked is soooooooooooooooooooo overkill. It's like nintendo is your paranoid old aunt or something. This is too far.
"Now it seems like you aren't properly reading, THE BIGGER THE GAP IN POWER BETWEEN DOCK & UNDOCKED MODE, THE MORE DIFFICULT IT WILL BE TO OPTIMIZE FOR BOTH. The rumors say that Switch is easy to develop for in its current form, would that hold true if the gap between docked & undocked mode was significantly greater? Probably not."
Lmao dude this literally makes NO SENSE. I'm not going to be a dick anymore, and i'm sorry for coming off like that earlier. But think about what you're saying. You're saying the Switch is easy to develop for because of it's underpowered specs? No. When people say Switch is easier to develop for, they mean because of it's support of most modern engines, as well as it's modern architecture(basically any mobile Nvidia chip has more modern architecture than ps4 and xbone), as well as it's OS. They're not saying "MAN...the difference between undocked and docked is SO SMALL that it's easy to develop for!" That's simply not something people mean when they mean it's easy to develop for. Because the reality is, the difference is pretty big.
You said "The rumors say that Switch is easy to develop for in its current form, would that hold true if the gap between docked & undocked mode was significantly greater? Probably not."
What does that even mean? Are you saying that if they upgraded the system the difference between the portable and docked mode would grow larger? HOW? IF THEY UPGRADED THE CHIP, IT WOULD BE USING THE SAME EXACT CHIP FOR BOTH MODES AND THUS THE POWER DIFFERENCE WOULD BE THE SAME. For instance, if they have the tegra x1 at 30% on the go right now...and upgraded to the pascal tegra...the difference between the undocked and docked system would STILL BE THE SAME because it's one chip unit, you aren't upgrading one part separately, it's the same console and therefore if they wanted to say go with 30% for a custom pascal chip on the go...the difference in power would be the EXACT SAME as it is now. KEEP IN MIND, the Pascal is more powerful than Maxwell and is more power efficient.
The only other way I can interpret your comment, and this makes a little sense, is that you think that they would have to compensate for the better chip by making the difference between docked and undocked greater so that the battery life and/or heat doesn't ruin the system. This still makes no sense though, since these specs just show that Nintendo isn't being very good at using the system to it's potential. With the fan .. possible added cooling for the dock...etc...this should be running at much better percentages. It's confirmed by anyone that knows basic specs that this isn't BEING DEVELOPED EFFICIENTLY AT ALL. There's literal tablets with similar graphics that have bette battery life and don't heat up. Tablets that use their graphics much more. So the point doesn't really stand.
Either way dude, agree to disagree I guess. Sorry for being rude. I'm excited for January 12th none theless.