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No, I suppose a BD is possible instead of a RD. It says I blocked axum.



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Linkzmax said:
No, I suppose a BD is possible instead of a RD. It says I blocked axum.

Funny, that's not what Mr.P said

I was thinking that a team including Mr.P could have spent N1 redirecting their own killer to a target, just to see what the message would be.  Maybe they didn't.  Did you get a message when you properly blocked your N1 and N2 targets? 



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And? I don't believe he was actually redirected.

Just confirmations of my targets.



It's just a discrepancy I noticed while building my Day 3 Observations post. Shouldn't be too long now, but don't expect incredibly incisive thoughts. There are a few things, though, that look interesting in light of new data. I suppose you'll have already thought of it all



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axum was only told his action failed,(which would leave room for doubt if he had targeted a Commuter or Untargetable, though in the specific case he had targeted himself) not that he was specifically blocked.



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Day 3 Observations by a Raving Amnesiac: 
a post by prof

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suspects?
Trucks is up there. Baalz? Axum? Linkz?
I trust arm and zero and blade.And mrp got different info? What the heck? And mrp knows it was a different person and knows who the different person is???
Oh shit you know what, I almost forgot ff is playing.
I'd guess trucks, linkz, ff.
Axum possibly too. Baalz seems town.

Analysis: 
about to bus trucks, also names Baalz, Axum(towndoc), Linkz, but then says Baalz "seems town"
arm, zero(lover), blade(cop) trusted - puts zero in list of other townies? (would clear arm)
trucks, linkz, me (dropping baalz)
is "surprised" at the redirect of Mr.P ... again, why out this heretofore unknown role?  Did they think it would send the town into panic and sow so much distrust as to create chaos?? 

post from Mr.P
"Okay I scanned blade but eneed up with someone's else's info instead ( I am aware who this person is but I won't divulge for now, though I do believe said person is scum )."
(me) Why?
"I honestly just want to discuss the chances of there being a vanilla town in the game."
What a garbage reason
Arminillo basically requesting a free pass
Linkz (end of pg.26)
"prof hasn't displayed his town not-mafia tell yet, and by this point in time I'd expect it to have shown up." -- don't know how I misremembered that
Blade, Arminillo, Mr.P "basically confirmed town"
TOS the only named suspect
Arminillo being so chummy with prof that it goes past scummy all the way back to town -- who would do this as a mafia teammate?!  He clearly (from other posts) really wanted the game to end soon, but at worst it's mafia willing to do anything, even kill his team, just to end the Day.  It's easier to see it as town tired of caring about the game, to me. 
Linkz saying prof's claim is utter craziness, which is the reason I killed prof, which he also called utter craziness (for a vig to do). 
Mr.P describes the way in which he was redirected. 
zero really, really, really, really wanted Linkz dead. 
Baalz to the waalz
prof is not a fan of my idea to trust Linkz won't block me (he said he wouldn't, but he did, if he's town) -- just mad I'm not buying his plan, or does he really think I'm extra stupid because the mafiahood of the RB is obvious to him? 
Baalz followed my vote on zero. 
prof setting out his case for Traitor Baalz.  Just defending his Lovers master plan, but by bussing yet another mafia or just attacking town? 
(they continue to battle it out for the remainder of the Day)
(Linkz votes me and prof follows with great enthusiasm, but happily goes back to the original plan when there are enough votes)



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Linkzmax said:
theprof00 said:

No, you're not being a dumbass you just can't see the big picture.

Combine this with prof's post about Baalz being the traitor and I think it's pretty clear he was trying to communicate with a mafiso outside of the quicktopic.

Do you stand by this analysis? 



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Linkzmax said:
Arminillo said:
This is pissing me off. I am in no way suspect. Youre saying i have the ability to either enable doublevote or redirect?
Thats stupid.

Put your money where your mouth is and vote me.

I would like to remind you all my first vote was for trucks. And you think mafia me, prof, and zero all wanted to kill godfather day one. Why would we all put our eggs in one basket like that? I also couldve kept him alive when he claimed doctor, as noone was budging, but i instead sided again with the other two mafia buddies? Why would you think im so stupid?

This game has gone on too damn long and this is what the mafia wanted by keeping me alive, using the flavor against me and knowing that at the same time i have little influence over the other players.

zero was town. prof only turned on him, because mafia must've been close to a win. Your vote on Trucks had no reasoning, and then he was out of your sights until zero's claim.

The only one using flavor has been you, so I have no idea how you can say mafia are keeping you alive and using it against you.

Here are some mafia (and FinalFan) using flavor: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8227976 ,

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8228020 ,

"Nor did it help thinking with so much emphasis on flavor that a Dreamer is probable." -Linkz  http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8228032

This one is Linkz using flavor again. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8227278

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8225843

Linkz asking me for flavor interpretation. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8224242

 

And of course, the people who made up names or roles that are linked to draw off suspicion or what-have-you. (Zero, Trucks, Prof connecting himself to Blade via surname)

Linkz, you are just trying to position me as suspicious after the results of a Mr. P lynch. If hes town, youll come for me next. If hes maf, youll say i defended him and come after me next. Luckily, FF is suspect of me too. Thats why youve joined yourself to the hip of Final Fan, Linkz. And FinalFan doesnt seem to mind.

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I dont think MR. P would have an ability that would let him both read messages AND redirect someone, different someones at that as well. But he read Baalz Poem and supposedly redirected linkz on the same night. Doctors arent normally able to self-save, so why redirect the role blocker to Axum? Why risk letting Final Fan shoot Zero or Prof (who he heavily hinted at shooting) and lose another mafia member?



Muda Muda Muda Muda Muda Muda!!!!


Final-Fan said:
Linkzmax said:

Combine this with prof's post about Baalz being the traitor and I think it's pretty clear he was trying to communicate with a mafiso outside of the quicktopic.

Do you stand by this analysis? 

I do think it's fairly possible.



Arminillo said:
Linkzmax said:

zero was town. prof only turned on him, because mafia must've been close to a win. Your vote on Trucks had no reasoning, and then he was out of your sights until zero's claim.

The only one using flavor has been you, so I have no idea how you can say mafia are keeping you alive and using it against you.

Here are some mafia (and FinalFan) using flavor: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8227976 ,

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8228020 ,

"Nor did it help thinking with so much emphasis on flavor that a Dreamer is probable." -Linkz  http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8228032

This one is Linkz using flavor again. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8227278

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8225843

Linkz asking me for flavor interpretation. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8224242

 

And of course, the people who made up names or roles that are linked to draw off suspicion or what-have-you. (Zero, Trucks, Prof connecting himself to Blade via surname)

Linkz, you are just trying to position me as suspicious after the results of a Mr. P lynch. If hes town, youll come for me next. If hes maf, youll say i defended him and come after me next. Luckily, FF is suspect of me too. Thats why youve joined yourself to the hip of Final Fan, Linkz. And FinalFan doesnt seem to mind.

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I dont think MR. P would have an ability that would let him both read messages AND redirect someone, different someones at that as well. But he read Baalz Poem and supposedly redirected linkz on the same night. Doctors arent normally able to self-save, so why redirect the role blocker to Axum? Why risk letting Final Fan shoot Zero or Prof (who he heavily hinted at shooting) and lose another mafia member?

You said people are using flavor against you. That is not the case. Every other use of flavor other than prof has been in relation to something you've brought up or your knowledge of Persona.

I questioned FF for originally suggesting you were scum. His theory has some plausibility to it, but it pales compared to others.

I am not proposing Mr.P is the Redirector; however, you are suggesting prof was. Axum had already tried to save himself Night Two, so clearly if I wasn't used to block him then they may not have been able to kill axum.