d21lewis said:
setsunatenshi said:
You don't need to try and sell me that BS 'service' from EA. I have origin on PC, so if I ever felt the need to have EA access I would purchase it.
Now on your question, how does it negatively affect me? Well let's put it this way, I believe it is predatory of any company to artificially withold the release of a game in order to milk extra money from the people who are excited for that game to come out and even pre-ordered it. Also in a game like Battlefield waiting a week after release to begin playing it means you're already at a disadvantage against people who managed to unlock a ton of weapons in the week prior.
I do not like this practice, so I don't support it with my money. I don't want to have a situation in which every big publisher things they can have a service like this and we'd be stuck either having 2 tiers of customers. Sure it might not be a big deal to have the next Fifa released 1 week earlier, but what if story heavy games like Mass Effect and such have this same treatment? Now all of a sudden, there is no safe place on the internet with tons of people spoiling the game to those who 'have' to wait an extra week to play it.
The main point I was trying to make is, Sony has full control of their ecosystem, and if they deem deterimental to their services to have EA access, they are 100% in their right to not allow it. They were transparent about it from the beginning, so not 1 person who bought a Playstation was 'robbed' of this service.
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Your post seems level headed and your explained your reasons well. I'll respond point by point. Before I do, I'll just say that i respect your opinion on the matter.
1.) I never thought EA Access had value until I tried it. I'm the kind of person that prefers to own a game rather than "rent" them. It wasn't until recently that I warmed up to the idea of PlayStation Plus and Xbox Live Gold "free games". I understand you're happy with your current options. I was happy with mine. I can still appreciate the fact that there might be some gamers that play solely on PS4 that would be happy with a service like EA Access. Even if it were another company that offered it in PlayStation (ie: Activision) it wouldn't be EA. Even if their offerings are better, it still wouldn't be the same.
It's a moot point, though. As it stands, there isn't an EA Access on PS4 and there's not going to be.
2.) To my knowledge, EA let players play 10 hours before the game released. There's a big difference between 10 hours and a whole week! That's basically the difference between people who went to a midnight launch and people who waited until the next morning to pick up a pre order. And even then, it had to be digital. Not a huge advantage, in my opinion.
Conversely, Gears of War 4 let people who paid extra for a digital version play the game a full four days earlier! It didn't ruin things.
3.) I agree. Sony has full control of their ecosystem. I also think that people who like games from a particular company would love EA Access or something similar if they were more educated on what it did. I admit it. I didn't know. Now I do. If there was a "Sony Access" that allowed $10 off on upcoming Sony games, and also let players download Ratchet and Clank, Gravity Rush, ND Collection, etc, wouldn't that sound great?
But, as you said, you don't support such practices and I respect that. We can only speak for ourselves but clearly, you can see why other people might find it enticing, right? And with the feature being entirely optional and inexpensive, you can see why it doesn't really hurt anyone or give an unfair advantage.
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I appreciate your point of view on this, and on principle I believe EA should be able to have this service on the platforms that accept it. Right now that means Xbox and PC. One of things I'm arguing is this notion pushed by several people, that somehow Sony has some special obligation to open the doors in their platform for EA access and for that reason users are somehow being stolen of something.
I actually enjoy several EA published games and Battlefield is one of my most played games all year every year (on PC ofc), so it's not like I'm ignoring they have some quality titles.
Also I have subscriptions in game access services like PS Now. In this case I do it simply because there's a ton of PS3 games I want to play from time to time and don't want to be dragging an ancient system everytime . Now if Sony started giving me special access (early access) to new games just because I have that service I would also be pissed with it on the principle alone. There's no reason why I should get to play Last of Us 2 a few days earlier than Billy Bob down the street just because I'm also paying for an aditional service. That would be dirty as fuck and a slippery slope for the same type of shit to start happen more and more. It makes even less sense now that the goods are digital, so we know they aren't giving early access to some people due to low product availability.
So on a personal level, I'm glad you're enjoying the service you paid for, but I'm kind of glad that Sony on a leadership position is not giving in to those practices. Will it change in the future if it makes financial sense for them? Maybe, but I sure hope not. In any case I can only vote with my wallet, so if Sony and EA agreed to have this available I would simply not get it.
Having said all this, if EA would end that early access perk for their games, then I probably wouldn't have anything against it.