Forums - Gaming Discussion - No new IP has sold 25m+ on consoles for the last 10 years.

25m units is beyond huge, its an anomaly. I don't see it as a necessity for one game to sell so much.

Maybe if they make the next Star Wars Battlefront great, they could potentially hit that figure. Thats if the first hasn't already burned many peoples taste for the franchise. No game could do it on merits of its gameplay alone, their has to be some cultural relevance attached.



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SWORDF1SH said:
Pyro as Bill said:

Minecraft, Wii Fit, Wii Sports, Wii Play, Nintendogs, Brain Age, Kinect Adventures, CoD*, NSMB*.

*reboot

Ok, not to sound rude but what's the point of the thread? What are you trying to say? 

I really do not mean to sound rude but no reasons were given in OP.

Breakout IPs are good for the industry and who doesn't like a new massive cultural phenomena?

It's not just massive sellers though, new, successful IPs in general seem to be massively down. Most of the biggies have declined/maybe declining. Where's their replacements?



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SnakeDrake said:
Everything on the switch will hit that record.

Sure, like the Wii U?



Pyro as Bill said:
Kerotan said:

Gaming wouldn't be the same without Sony this gen.  Just look at that list of new IPs.  Now wonder almost everyone wants a playstation. 

Making new IPs isn't hard.

Making new IPs that can sell at least 1m or 5m for a first party is the hard part.

Sony are very good at making new IPs that sell over 1m. That's quite the compliment you've paid them there. 



Conina said:
Pyro as Bill said:

1m+ sellers 2006-2009 = 90+/370 (New/Total)

New 1m+ sellers 2013-2016 = 28/150 (ish)

2007 alone had 27/~100 new 1m+ IPs.

How many of these 90+/370 (New/Total) games reached 1m+ sellers until 12/31/2009?

You are comparing sales of 3 years with sales of a lot more than 3 years.

Most get superceded by sequels though.

2007: CoD, Assassin's, Bioshock, Crysis, Crackdown, DiRT, M+S, Mass Effect, Pf Layton, Portal, Uncharted, Warhawk, Wii Fit.

I don't see anything similar to 2007 for this gen. Not yet anyway.



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Kerotan said:
Pyro as Bill said:

Making new IPs isn't hard.

Making new IPs that can sell at least 1m or 5m for a first party is the hard part.

Sony are very good at making new IPs that sell over 1m. That's quite the compliment you've paid them there. 

If all of these are new IPs, then yeah, great job.

The Last of Us
DriveClub
Until Dawn
The Order: 1886
Bloodborne
Nintendo Land
Tomodachi Life
Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker
Super Mario Maker
Splatoon


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Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!

Pyro as Bill said:
SWORDF1SH said:

What are those 9 new IPs again? OP is a bit of a mess to understand. 

Minecraft, Wii Fit, Wii Sports, Wii Play, Nintendogs, Brain Age, Kinect Adventures, CoD*, NSMB*.

*reboot

1. Call of Duty 4 isn't a reboot.

 

2. Several of those are franchises created during the motion gaming fad and have totally died off. Selling 25 million is great, but not if they don't last more than 5 years.



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Pyro as Bill said:
SWORDF1SH said:

Ok, not to sound rude but what's the point of the thread? What are you trying to say? 

I really do not mean to sound rude but no reasons were given in OP.

Breakout IPs are good for the industry and who doesn't like a new massive cultural phenomena?

It's not just massive sellers though, new, successful IPs in general seem to be massively down. Most of the biggies have declined/maybe declining. Where's their replacements?

First off CoD and NSMB shouldn't be on the list. Also few of those games were mandatory items with hardware. Even if you look at the list, most of the games are bad, uninspired casual shit.

If there is a decline in people buying established IPs and new IPs, it might not actually be a bad thing. It could mean that sales are spread out amongst a wider range of games. That would be a good thing. Or it could be smaller console install base to sell to because of WiiUs and, to a lesser extent, XB1s failure to shift off shelves.

I think we need more data.



DirtyP2002 said:
Sea of Thieves does not deserve to be forgotten!

It hasn't even released yet. So I don't see why you are bring it up?

Are you assuming it will hit 25+ million?



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