| SnakeDrake said: Everything on the switch will hit that record. |
Sure, like the Wii U?
Pyro as Bill said:
Making new IPs isn't hard. Making new IPs that can sell at least 1m or 5m for a first party is the hard part. |
Sony are very good at making new IPs that sell over 1m. That's quite the compliment you've paid them there.
Conina said:
How many of these 90+/370 (New/Total) games reached 1m+ sellers until 12/31/2009? You are comparing sales of 3 years with sales of a lot more than 3 years. |
Most get superceded by sequels though.
2007: CoD, Assassin's, Bioshock, Crysis, Crackdown, DiRT, M+S, Mass Effect, Pf Layton, Portal, Uncharted, Warhawk, Wii Fit.
I don't see anything similar to 2007 for this gen. Not yet anyway.
Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)
Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!
Kerotan said:
Sony are very good at making new IPs that sell over 1m. That's quite the compliment you've paid them there. |
If all of these are new IPs, then yeah, great job.
| The Last of Us |
| DriveClub |
| Until Dawn |
| The Order: 1886 |
| Bloodborne |
| Nintendo Land |
| Tomodachi Life |
| Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker |
| Super Mario Maker |
| Splatoon |
Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)
Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!
Pyro as Bill said:
Minecraft, Wii Fit, Wii Sports, Wii Play, Nintendogs, Brain Age, Kinect Adventures, CoD*, NSMB*. *reboot |
1. Call of Duty 4 isn't a reboot.
2. Several of those are franchises created during the motion gaming fad and have totally died off. Selling 25 million is great, but not if they don't last more than 5 years.
Bet with Adamblaziken:
I bet that on launch the Nintendo Switch will have no built in in-game voice chat. He bets that it will. The winner gets six months of avatar control over the other user.
Sea of Thieves does not deserve to be forgotten!
Imagine not having GamePass on your console...
Pyro as Bill said:
Breakout IPs are good for the industry and who doesn't like a new massive cultural phenomena? It's not just massive sellers though, new, successful IPs in general seem to be massively down. Most of the biggies have declined/maybe declining. Where's their replacements? |
First off CoD and NSMB shouldn't be on the list. Also few of those games were mandatory items with hardware. Even if you look at the list, most of the games are bad, uninspired casual shit.
If there is a decline in people buying established IPs and new IPs, it might not actually be a bad thing. It could mean that sales are spread out amongst a wider range of games. That would be a good thing. Or it could be smaller console install base to sell to because of WiiUs and, to a lesser extent, XB1s failure to shift off shelves.
I think we need more data.
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TheGreatOther said: Most publishers don't even want to invest in new IPs anymore, Sony is the *main* one willing to throw money at games that don't have a brand name already. |
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25m is too high a bar even to old, stablished and popular franchises. So I see no issue here. New IPs getting to 3-5m should be considered very successfull.
| Pyro as Bill said: 25m+ Completely New Minecraft has managed over 100m spread across multiple platforms and generations. (360/PS3 managed 16m exc digital) 20m+ New/25m+ Reboot* Kinect Adventures:2010 *NSMB:2009 Wii Fit:2007 *CoD4 MW: 2007 (16m, later versions sold 25m+) 2006-Wii Sports, Wii Play. 2005-Nintendogs, Brain Age 10m+ New/Peaked Destiny:2014 Batman Arkham:2009 Just Dance:2009 Assassin's Creed:2007 Guitar Hero 3:2007(Guitar Hero:2005) Red Dead Redemption:2010(Revolver:2004)
2007 seems to be the record holder for 1m+ new/rebooted IPs. I think I can count 26. Will there be a new or rebooted 20-25m IP this gen? I think RDR2 might be able to hit 20m depending on available install base. |
Interesting, can you make a thread to inform us about the +50M and +100M sellers. It's very important.
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