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Forums - Sales Discussion - November 2016 NPD Thread! Hardware estimates in the OP!

pray4mojo on 09 December 2016
Bandorr said:
pray4mojo said:

Why did you use excuses for Xbox One but forget that PS4 Pro launched in November? Don't you think a major console LAUNCH is going to have a tiny impact on the numbers and skew them a little?

Sure some. Just like I am comparing one month to FOUR. The bigget months difference was when the xbox on S came out. The difference was 114K. 20K higher than october with Gears.

You didn't answer my question though. You actually think the xbox one S will win 7 out of 12 months up against the ps4 AND the switch? Based on what?

Sorry. I didn't see the question. 

I think it will based on sales momentum and their new console coming out. Winning four out of the last five months can't be ignored and if they can pull that off with a redesign, what can they do with an all-new, machine? 

I could be wrong and things just magically revert back in Sony's favor but usually, that's not how the gaming industry works. You will typically see sales swing in chunks, or years. It's not often hardware wins for four months and then drops off. There's usually fire behind that smoke and it's probably why Microsoft felt compelled to open their mouths lately about the tides turning, or whatever it was they said (can't remember the actual quote). They know something we don't... more than just winning NPD. There's probably alot of internal data that we don't have access to that is showing them something bigger has happened in the US than just a blip on the map.



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Normchacho on 09 December 2016
Intrinsic said:
X1Gates said:

Technically 300k is still close. You just admitted sony had a fire sale+2 new consoles+vr everything but the kitchen sink and they only win by 300k? you would expect total domination. Anything below 300k is close in my opinion. 

Unless I am mistaken, didn't MS have more bundles for the XB1s than Sony had for the PS4?

Werent both consoles discounted and retailing for under $220 in most places?

Didnt PS4s come out in September?

Didn't PSvr come out in October and doesn't it cost $400? Unless you are suggesting that new buyers wanted the PSvr so much that they were willing to spend $700-$800 for it and a console all in one month. 

Ah well, whatever rocks your boat I guess. 

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foodfather on 09 December 2016

Yeah if it really is 300k that's not impressive at all considering the new hardware and much better deals.

Sony will probably win December as well since the deals are still on. Xbox One deals at the moment are crap with a lot of dated games.



Jranation on 09 December 2016

300k difference isn't that big. I expected around 600k difference with the PS4 reaching 2mil+ in the NPD Prediction thread.



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Rafie on 09 December 2016
foodfather said:
Yeah if it really is 300k that's not impressive at all considering the new hardware and much better deals.

Sony will probably win December as well since the deals are still on. Xbox One deals at the moment are crap with a lot of dated games.

You thought Xbox had crap deals? I thought their deals were pretty good. I bought a few games. I'll admit that Sony did have better deals. It wasn't miles better, but better altogether.



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Normchacho on 09 December 2016

There is no actual source for this 300K number correct?



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Lauster on 09 December 2016
Normchacho said:
There is no actual source for this 300K number correct?

Correct, gap could be bigger



Normchacho on 09 December 2016
CGI-Quality said:
Normchacho said:
There is no actual source for this 300K number correct?

Correct.

 

Lauster said:
Normchacho said:
There is no actual source for this 300K number correct?

Correct, gap could be bigger

 

Thanks guys, just making sure.



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LudicrousSpeed on 09 December 2016
Jranation said:
300k difference isn't that big. I expected around 600k difference with the PS4 reaching 2mil+ in the NPD Prediction thread.

Same. Maybe it's a lot higher. I expected easily half a million and even higher given how all we heard here and on GAF was that it was a guaranteed slaughter.



Aura7541 on 09 December 2016
LudicrousSpeed said:
Jranation said:
300k difference isn't that big. I expected around 600k difference with the PS4 reaching 2mil+ in the NPD Prediction thread.

Same. Maybe it's a lot higher. I expected easily half a million and even higher given how all we heard here and on GAF was that it was a guaranteed slaughter.

Definitely not on GAF because the aggregate predictions had the PS4 beating the XBO by less than 200K.