Wasn't this one of the fastest selling FF to date. I really don't see why Square is doomed, if anything Japanese devs should try to succesfully release their games worldwide instead of focusing on one market.

Days of this "testing" BS need to be over. 

Japanese developers need to wake up and support Nintendo like their future depends on it because it does. Relying on the West to support the future of Japanese IP is the freaking dumbest strategy they could have. 

If Dragon Quest XI can be on Switch, then it's time to cut the crap. Final Fantasy XV should be on Switch. Final Fantasy VII Remake needs to be on Switch. Final Fantasy XVI should be on Switch. Kingdom Hearts III should be on Switch. 

I don't care if the resolution needs to be reduced or some effects pared down a bit or whatever. Street Fighter IV was able to run on a 3DS and 3DS is probably not even as powerful as a Wii, which was light years below a PS3/360. 

Well it doesn't bother me if that's what you think. I just don't think releasing them on nintendo consoles will make that much of a difference, let alone save the market. Final Fantasy brand was already hurt with FF13 and everyone saw these figures long before the game came out. it would have done the same or even less on NS.

The market was already shrinking last gen and I doubt it has anything to do with Nintendo or playstation getting multiplatform games, that's just wishful thinking

Nintendo's made poor hardware decision in the past, but I'm talking about the here and now. 

If Dragon Quest XI can be on Switch, then so should Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts. 

Otherwise they may as well start prepping future Dragon Quests for iOS/Android. If that's the future they want, so be it, they deserve to lie in that grave since they'll have willingly dug it. 

Pokemon/Mario Kart/Splatoon/Animal Crossing/Final Fantasy/Monster Hunter/Dragon Quest all need to be on the same platform if traditional gaming in Japan is to have a future, Nintendo can't be expected to carry the entire burden on their shoulders alone. Help them out for crying out loud. Sony had their turn. They were great in the 90s/first half of 2000s in Japan. Now it's not working, ok, it's just not working. Japanese are not going to give a shit about 4K or any of that other stuff either. It's Nintendo or bust for Japan. 

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It seems rather silly to say "I think Square-Enix hitching their wagon to Sony has caught up to them.". What was their alternative? A WiiU version would have to either look and run like balls, or required them to fundamentally change the game across all platforms. The former would have been pointless, and i'd argue the latter's overall effect would have been almost entirely negative for the game. The AAA market in the west (FF's most important region) is far too competitive for them to allow major technical compromises for the sake of an overall relatively unsuccessful console.

SE 'hitch their wagon' to Sony because at least as far as Final Fantasy is concerned, they're their most profitable global partner. The FF brand continues to be best associated with PlayStation (thanks to their partnership with them during the 5th and 6th generation, which worked out spectacularly for both of them), the PS4 is the current market leader (by a significant margin), and all currently available handhelds lack the power necessary to delivery the AAA experience people expect from Final Fantasy. SE's only currently existing options outside of PlayStation is Xbox (which they've already established as somewhere all core FF entries will be available), and PC (a space they're quickly growing into).

I agree a Switch FF15 release is worth considering, but the way you're presenting your argument feels rather hyperbolic. Past decisions should not be judged by the assumed potential of something that couldn't even be factored into those decisions.

Truth hurts. Everyone can see where the Japanese industry is going, and Nintendo is the only one that can change it. 

Sony has had their shot with PS3 and PS4 and it isn't working. The industry there keeps getting worse and worse. Japanese developers need to support the ACTUAL MARKET LEADER. It's not a complicated formula. 

Nintendo is the only one that can move hardware big numbers in Japan anymore. If they want to ignore that, Japanese devs can fuck right off because I'm not going to buy their crap on iOS/Android in 5 years when they've destroyed the entire Japanese game business. Street Fighter and Metal Gear are two IP that might be dead already unfortunately. 

FFVX is too western for Japanese gamers. Square is going to see a much higher return on Dragon Quest XI as it'll be available on Switch, 3DS and PS4 and it's the game equivalent to Japanese RPG comfort food. FFXV isn't done yet though, I say we give it a few more weeks.

FFXV has a much lower attach rate than FFXIII. I don't think console install base is the reason the game sold poorly.

Agreed DQXI is going to do much, much better, but in large part because Enix was a lot smarter in making sure Nintendo wasn't locked out of that game. 

If DQXI was PS4-only, Square-Enix executives would be shitting a brick the size of Okinawa right now.