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Chazore said:
LivingMetal said:

Let me please stress again that I'm not neccessarily knocking the remasters.  But my point to your point was that video game remasters have found more favorable quality that film.  Just my personal observation.

I'm not talking of quality though, I'm talking about their reason for their existence, the same way we see films from decades ago that end up being brought back to the big screen or the couch via remakes, remastering content for higher quality media formats. Games have their own form of the two, but all of them serve on the basis of nostalgia, that's why we want them in the first place, to rememebr and enjoy the good times we had, the fond memories. 

I'm not saying you are knocking them. I just wanted to point out the reson as to whyw e keep seeing these popping up. Before you and I were even born they had different forms of remasters and remakes, via TV, the radio, the theatre etc.

From an economic industry standpoint, I'd expect a remake would be less expensive than its original of course.  And I'm not surprised if it sold less than its original yet still viably profitale because of lower "remake" costs.  And yes, nostalgia would be a factor with some titles.  In worst case scenario, I see it as a cash grab but one that serves both developers and consumers in mind.  The nostalgia factor I think would apply to something more like the NES Classic, Parappa, and Crash.  But titles such as Gears, Skyrim, and Last  of Us less so.



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This gen became a joke when Square announced a remaster of Tomb Raider 1 year after release on PS360. I knew then this will be funny how far less original games will be released and more AAA nonsense that already sold millions people would buy again rather than new IPs. rofl



LivingMetal said:

From an economic industry standpoint, I'd expect a remake would be less expensive than its original of course.  And I'm not surprised if it sold less than its original yet still viably profitale because of lower "remake" costs.  And yes, nostalgia would be a factor with some titles.  In worst case scenario, I see it as a cash grab but one that serves both developers and consumers in mind.  The nostalgia factor I think would apply to something more like the NES Classic, Parappa, and Crash.  But titles such as Gears, Skyrim, and Last  of Us less so.

Nostalgia is a money maker, it's a valid case to want to profit from. People don't just make remakes or remasters just for money or tech, it's nostalgia driven.

Skyrim remaster has done as well as it has because of nostalgia, because people yearned to play Skyrim again, but with slightly better visuals, the visuals come with the advancements, but the game itself is mostly bought for nastalgic reasons. We thrive on nostalgia as a species, practically we're the only species that goes so far for such a feeling.

There are even some people out there for example who love WWI and are getting nostlagia over the setting and guns used in BF1, the game itself is playing with nostalgia for past events that already happened. We've never really had a big AAA WWI shooter, but we all know what WWI was like and we'd naturally want to know how the war was fought and remember the past.

I'm not saying you're completely wrong, but that I astrongly feel that nostyalgia with remakes, remasters, plays a huge part in their entire reason for existing. The profit comes naturally, as does with most products and services in this world.



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I like it. The game was good, and I want to play it again, even better if it looks prettier and still gives me that satisfaction of before



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SpokenTruth said:
I made this post for another thread 1 month ago and it's already out of date.

BioShock: The Collection - got it for free on Steam (although not really necessary, old PC version runs great)

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim – Special Edition - got it for free on Steam, nice upgrade

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Remastered - not really necessary, old PC version still runs great

Resident Evil 4 - totally worth the €1.50 I paid for the "Ultimate HD edition", first PC version was a shame

Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue - never played the Kingdom Hearts series, interested in the remixes

Crash Bandicoot 1, 2, and Warped - I loved these games on PSX, very interested in the new versions

Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age

Full Throttle Remastered - first screenshots look like a great improvement: http://imgur.com/Bs0fBQE

Bulletstorm - not really necessary, old PC version still runs great after a GfWL patch

Resident Evil 5 - not really necessary, old PC version still runs great

Deadlight: Director’s Cut

Odin Sphere Leifthrasir

Dead Island Definitive Collection

Valkyria Chronicles Remastered - great improvement to the original

Ratchet & Clank - great improvement to the original, many changes, totally worth it

Resident Evil 6

Day of the Tentacle Remastered - love to play these LucasArts classics on the go, new interface works perfect on the Vita

Shadow Complex Remastered - got it for free on PC

Heavy Rain - not really necessary, PS3 version looked good, only minor improvements

Gravity Rush Remastered - Kat in FullHD, totally worth the double-dipping

Resident Evil Zero HD Remaster - big improvement to the original, totally worth the few bucks

Final Fantasy VII - the remake looks great, will probably buy it

Beyond: Two Souls - big improvement on PS4, I hated the aliasing of the PS3 version, got a good deal for the HR/B:TS-bundle

Deadpool

Darksiders II: Deathinitive Edition - got it for free on Steam (although not really necessary, old PC version runs great)

Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection - good upgrade for a fair price, big improvements especially for Uncharted 1

Castle Crashers Remastered

Tearaway Unfolded - more sequel than remaster, sooo many changes, totally worth it

Dishonored: Definitive Edition - not really necessary, old PC version still runs great

Gears of War: Ultimate Edition - good upgrade for a fair price (paid less than €10)

God of War III Remastered - was overpriced at first for a mere resolution bump, still a good upgrade in a flash deal

Prototype Biohazard Bundle

Devil May Cry 4: Special Edition

Payday 2: Crimewave Edition

Final Fantasy X/X-2 Remaster - big improvement to the original, love to play it on the go on the Vita

State of Decay: Year One Survival Edition

Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin

Borderlands: The Handsome Collection - not really necessary, old PC versions still run great

Final Fantasy Type-0 HD

Devil May Cry: Definitive Edition

Grim Fandango Remastered - love to play these LucasArts classics on the go, new interface works perfect on the Vita

Saints Row IV: Re-Elected - not really necessary, old PC version still runs great

Grand Theft Auto V - glad that I waited for the PC version

Halo: The Master Chief Collection - great upgrade for a fair price, big improvements for Halo 1, 2, 3 and ODST

The Binding of Isaac Rebirth

Sleeping Dogs: Definitive Edition - not really necessary, old PC version still runs great

Metro Redux - not really necessary, old PC versions still run great, but the upgrades were dirt cheap

Diablo III: Ultimate Evil Edition - not really necessary, old PC version still runs great

The Last of Us Remastered - good upgrade for a fair price, story DLC included

Oddworld: New N' Tasty - big improvement to the original

Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition - not really necessary, old PC version still runs great

I love the improvements of most console exclusive remasters (the PS3 HD collections of PS2 games included)... and if you sell the old versions on time and wait for deals of the new versions, the upgrade costs are neglible.

Since I buy most multiplatform games for PC, most of these remasters weren't even necessary for me... a new graphic card in combination of the "old version" often has the same or even bigger improvements. But if these PC-remasters are free for buyers of the original I ain't complaining. ;)

And these multiplatform remasters are good options for console gamers who want an enhanced version of their favorite games or want to play them on their new console.