By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Nintendo - Eurogamer: Sources: Nintendo Switch to get Pokémon Sun and Moon version

Nuvendil on 18 November 2016
Kai_Mao said:
Nuvendil said:

Last of US worked cause it was very recent, still fresh on people's minds.  Mario Kart 8 and Smash came out in 2014, Splatoon in 2015.  Collections are another, different issue, but that's not what we are talking about.  GTAV, same thing as Last of Us.  And if games are old enough, yes a remaster can be big news.  Splatoon, Kart, and Smash for Wii U all sit in the awkward place of being too recent for remasters and too old for a straight port.

But you just said the Last of Us Remasterd worked because it was just recent (about a year apart from PS3 to PS4 if I remember). What is too recent? 

Last of Us was recent enough to work as a port or remaster, basically falling into the "crossgen" category in many people's minds.  IMO it has to be within 12 to 14 months, basically a crossgen feel to it.  That's why Last of Us was able to work, it could have been a straight port with better performance and it would have worked.  But once you get past the 18 month mark, you hit a definite dead zone for a while where it's too old to excite people with a port and people will roll their eyes at a remaster.  Honestly, you can't start pitching the remaster thing until it's more of like 6 to 7 years older or more.  Needs to be long enough to pull on those nostalgia strings. 

I could be wrong, but I doubt it.  Why would the people who didn't buy a Wii U for Smash 4 and Kart 8 buy a Switch for Smash 4 and Kart 8?  And if Nintendo says "no new Kart or Smash on Switch," why would Smash 4 and Kart 8 fans be interested, since they can play the most recent entries on the Wii U they already own?



Around the Network
Ali_16x on 18 November 2016

Man I was just about to make a prediction thread saying it would be announced in January
It was so obvious that it was going to be announced because the munchlax event ends 1 day before the Jan Event.



"There is only one race, the pathetic begging race"

Kai_Mao on 18 November 2016
Nuvendil said:
Kai_Mao said:

But you just said the Last of Us Remasterd worked because it was just recent (about a year apart from PS3 to PS4 if I remember). What is too recent? 

Last of Us was recent enough to work as a port or remaster, basically falling into the "crossgen" category in many people's minds.  IMO it has to be within 12 to 14 months, basically a crossgen feel to it.  That's why Last of Us was able to work, it could have been a straight port with better performance and it would have worked.  But once you get past the 18 month mark, you hit a definite dead zone for a while where it's too old to excite people with a port and people will roll their eyes at a remaster.  Honestly, you can't start pitching the remaster thing until it's more of like 6 to 7 years older or more.  Needs to be long enough to pull on those nostalgia strings. 

I could be wrong, but I doubt it.  Why would the people who didn't buy a Wii U for Smash 4 and Kart 8 buy a Switch for Smash 4 and Kart 8?  And if Nintendo says "no new Kart or Smash on Switch," why would Smash 4 and Kart 8 fans be interested, since they can play the most recent entries on the Wii U they already own?

I guess it depends. For Smash, who knows how long will it be for the next installment will be released because they usually take about 6 years (For Brawl and Wii U/3DS) to develop. The Switch would kinda be in a bind without any of the big hit games that move systems releasing during its life time (while Zelda is no longer Wii U exclusive it's at least still releasing on Wii U). Same can be said for Mario Kart though to a lesser extent.



zorg1000 on 18 November 2016
Nuvendil said:
zorg1000 said:

Tell that to PS4/XBO

PS4 has 4 games in the top 15 that are late ports/remasters (GTA #2, Uncharted Collection #10, Last of Us #11, Minecraft #13)

XBO has 4 games in the top 15 that are late ports/remasters (GTA #3, Halo Collection #10, Gears Ultimate #11, Minecraft #14)

Last of US worked cause it was very recent, still fresh on people's minds.  Mario Kart 8 and Smash came out in 2014, Splatoon in 2015.  Collections are another, different issue, but that's not what we are talking about.  GTAV, same thing as Last of Us.  And if games are old enough, yes a remaster can be big news.  Splatoon, Kart, and Smash for Wii U all sit in the awkward place of being too recent for remasters and too old for a straight port.

Nah, you are just making up arbitrary time lines with literally nothing to back them up. Updated ports of 1 year old games are fine but not for 2-3 year old games? That makes no sense.

Im willing to bet all 3 of these updated ports will sell over 5 million on Switch.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

Miyamotoo on 19 November 2016
zorg1000 said:
Nuvendil said:

Last of US worked cause it was very recent, still fresh on people's minds.  Mario Kart 8 and Smash came out in 2014, Splatoon in 2015.  Collections are another, different issue, but that's not what we are talking about.  GTAV, same thing as Last of Us.  And if games are old enough, yes a remaster can be big news.  Splatoon, Kart, and Smash for Wii U all sit in the awkward place of being too recent for remasters and too old for a straight port.

Nah, you are just making up arbitrary time lines with literally nothing to back them up. Updated ports of 1 year old games are fine but not for 2-3 year old games? That makes no sense.

Im willing to bet all 3 of these updated ports will sell over 5 million on Switch.

Not to mention that PS4 also has older PS3 ports like God Of War 3, Journey, Heavy Rain and Beyond Two Souls...and I won't even mention 3rd parties remasters..

Yup, those Wii U remasters will sell great and beacuse of them Switch will more appling console for people who didnt had Wii U, and we know only 13m people actually has Wii U..



Around the Network
Nem on 19 November 2016
zorg1000 said:
Nem said:
Eeeh... i'll believe it when i see it. Gamefreak has yet to develop an HD game. And even if they did, it would make more sense to be something new rather than a port of a 3DS game.

wouldnt releasing an updated HD port be a good first step into HD development for someone who has never developed an HD game?

HD port of a 3DS title doesnt sound very exciting to me. :/

But yeah, it could.