Wow 930 am eastern time and already on my second rant of the day lol. 

*Disclaimer* I believe the classic Pokemon games are some of the best and most difficult RPGs of all time. To include yellow, blue, red, gold, silver, crystal, ruby and sapphire. 

"most difficult" is a very generous title. there are tons of RPGs way harder than pokemon, and in the realm of RPGs, pokemon is lacking. its a great series on its own, not as an RPG though.

So I've been disinterested in Pokemon for a long while. Probably Diamond/Pearl were the last decent Pokemon games for me. And no I don't count anything other than the handheld classic RPG poke games. All other game styles are garbage poke rip offs. 

so you dropped out right before Gen V, which is regarded as the best one so far. and you disregarded all the spinoffs which are praised for their unique mechanics and often amazing story telling. im starting to think this is a joke thread.

Anyway. So I was kind of interested in sun and Moon leading up. Until now. What the fuck has this franchise become. No gyms is actually a decent change. I don't love or hate it. I'm cool with innovation as long as it's good. 

okay, but what didnt you like? that was a very bare-bones remark.

Now for the bad. Two main things really. 

More mandatory non-battle activities. And for the battle system.... IT TELLS YOU WHAT MOVES ARE EFFECTIVE. The latter of these two things is absolutely a game killer for me. Half of the fun and difficulty of the classic Pokemon games is not memorizing all 100% move effectiveness and trying it out mid battle for success or failure. You get better that way! 

it was intended to help new fans of the series, but okay.

They have been baby-ing this franchise for years but this was the final nail in the coffin. Nintendo has successfully alienated all of their original Pokemon fans that have stuck with them since the beginning. 

not really. i have loved all new generations, regardless of their pros and cons. and a large amount of pokemon fans have felt this way since the original days. and in case you forgot, the original games are now on VC, both for new and old fans to relive the old days.

If you have stuck with them since like the yellow days, and are okay with this... Then that's just wack. I feel like the majority of the old school fans don't want this baby styled gameplay. 

you do realize that your in-game character is 10 years old right? and these games are meant to appeal to everyone right? and that game series have to evolve in order to stay relevant right?

Something like the battle system should AT LEAST have an option to turn off. And it's 2016 where is the difficulty option!!

they experimented with difficulty before, but seeing as pokemon's trainer AI's are hard to mess with all they could really do is up the levels of enemy pokemon a bit. also plenty of games still have a singular experience without difficulty settings.

I can literally best these Pokemon games without ever dying. Not once. Easy. That's not how it should be. 

i played through the original Blue on VC without losing a battle once. it can also depend on the person playing the game, you know.

I get that with new year's and games come younger and newer fans. But it's completely unfair to the original fans that stuck with Nintendo.

i dont have any problems with Sun and Moon.

Honestly quite unacceptable where Pokemon has gone. I'm disappointed as well as sad for this new release. 

youre a member of the silent minority then.

Sun and Moon might still be great 3ds games, but they aren't good Pokemon games. 

I'm with you on this; Pokemon games have become so easy throughout the years that I don't enjoy them anymore. I bought X/Y mostly because of nostalgia and the only time I have a few Pokemon die on me was on the Elite 4...not a single time before that; and on the Elite 4 it was like 2 Pokemon.

Is ok to have easy games, but in RPGs easy = bad in my opinion; there's barely any strategy in Pokemon games anymore; the old ones were extremely hard for me as a kid, and playing them as an adult they are still challenging, not hard by any means but some gym battles and the Elite 4 in particular post a real threat.

I'm with you on this; Pokemon games have become so easy throughout the years that I don't enjoy them anymore. I bought X/Y mostly because of nostalgia and the only time I have a few Pokemon die on me was on the Elite 4...not a single time before that; and on the Elite 4 it was like 2 Pokemon.

Is ok to have easy games, but in RPGs easy = bad in my opinion; there's barely any strategy in Pokemon games anymore; the old ones were extremely hard for me as a kid, and playing them as an adult they are still challenging, not hard by any means but some gym battles and the Elite 4 in particular post a real threat.