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DonFerrari on 10 November 2016
Chazore said:
Kerotan said:

First 2 titanfalls have tiny numbers.  all latest cods for years have been tiny.  nearly all Dice games don't have big numbers.  varying from tiny to barely respectable.  

 

Cod in future will be fine on ps4. point is no matter how bad they get the experience will always be greater on ps4 in terms of active servers. it's already much better on BF1 and that just came out.  we got a ton more viable options when it comes to picking servers that are full. 

If the second Titanfall has tiny numbers on all 3 platforms, then that is very dire indeed.

What people get from enjoyment is not in the quantity of servers.

DonFerrari said:

No, I have not made any remarks towards the type of gamer that play both games. I have made it so that there is no relevance to say other games have big fanbase on a platform and the game you want is small fanbase there as a justification to buy that game on the small platform.

Making it so other games cannot be mentioned, does not make a good argument. It's actually trifling to just pin down 3 games and then pin a single platform and say "wow that entire platform is bad for said games", when there are clearly other options out there and other factors not being taken into account (like this site will ever want to discuss them).

Small platform?.

 

Chazore said:
DonFerrari said:

Terrific. Sad that none of them choose it.

And yet there are 5 options that have already been chosen and are already being used.

 

Guess you wanted to understand the way you wanted instead of the way it is. What I said is that, neither you or kerotan choose to use the tally and say that any of the platforms were health enough to play but engaged in a bickering about which platform if better. And regarding the previous quote. Still have no idea how buying X game on a platform that have it on very little numbers is a good option because y,w and z sell good on it. I want a good community for the X game not the others when I buy it.

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Ostro on 10 November 2016

How can "many players" not find any matches when "not many" buy/play from the Windows store?



derpysquirtle64 on 10 November 2016
d21lewis said:
Wtf happened to cross play!?!

Activision's greed



 

KLAMarine on 10 November 2016
Bandorr said:
"Activision split the player base significantly by separating Windows and Steam players".

Did Activision make that decision? That absolutely seems like a Microsoft decision. Why would Activision shoot themselves in the foot like that?
pokoko said:
I'd love to know if this was an Activision or a Microsoft decision.
V-r0cK said:
I dont know who thought this was a good idea, but I'm leaning towards that this might have been MS decision to push gamers to use their Windows store instead.

"Activision split the player base significantly by separating Windows and Steam players"

Sounds like this was a decision by Activision. Whatever the case, what does it matter? If this article's word is anything to go by, people got a refund upon request. Open and shut case.



pokoko on 10 November 2016
KLAMarine said:
Bandorr said:
"Activision split the player base significantly by separating Windows and Steam players".

Did Activision make that decision? That absolutely seems like a Microsoft decision. Why would Activision shoot themselves in the foot like that?
pokoko said:
I'd love to know if this was an Activision or a Microsoft decision.
V-r0cK said:
I dont know who thought this was a good idea, but I'm leaning towards that this might have been MS decision to push gamers to use their Windows store instead.

"Activision split the player base significantly by separating Windows and Steam players"

Sounds like this was a decision by Activision. Whatever the case, what does it matter? If this article's word is anything to go by, people got a refund upon request. Open and shut case.

It's not open and shut unless it never happens again with these two market platforms.  If it's a matter of policy then it's worthy of discussion.



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KLAMarine on 10 November 2016
pokoko said:
KLAMarine said:

"Activision split the player base significantly by separating Windows and Steam players"

Sounds like this was a decision by Activision. Whatever the case, what does it matter? If this article's word is anything to go by, people got a refund upon request. Open and shut case.

It's not open and shut unless it never happens again with these two market platforms.

So then let me know if it happens again with these two market platforms.

pokoko said:

If it's a matter of policy then it's worthy of discussion.

Ideally, pro-consumer policy is if a customer is unhappy with a purchase, they should be able to get a refund. Unfortunately, with digital purchases, this isn't always possible but apparently, big, bad Microsoft was perfectly willing to issue refunds upon request.

Naturally, I suspect Microsoft is up to something nefarious issuing those refunds.



pokoko on 11 November 2016
KLAMarine said:
pokoko said:

It's not open and shut unless it never happens again with these two market platforms.

So then let me know if it happens again with these two market platforms.

pokoko said:

If it's a matter of policy then it's worthy of discussion.

Ideally, pro-consumer policy is if a customer is unhappy with a purchase, they should be able to get a refund. Unfortunately, with digital purchases, this isn't always possible but apparently, big, bad Microsoft was perfectly willing to issue refunds upon request.

Naturally, I suspect Microsoft is up to something nefarious issuing those refunds.

What are you talking about?  I'm not letting you know anything, you can read it yourself.  I don't care if you know or not.  

Also, stop being being oversensitive.  Good god.  I never said it was Microsoft's policy.



pokoko on 11 November 2016

Double post.  Thanks, VGC.



Kerotan on 11 November 2016
Chazore said:
Kerotan said:

First 2 titanfalls have tiny numbers.  all latest cods for years have been tiny.  nearly all Dice games don't have big numbers.  varying from tiny to barely respectable.  

 

Cod in future will be fine on ps4. point is no matter how bad they get the experience will always be greater on ps4 in terms of active servers. it's already much better on BF1 and that just came out.  we got a ton more viable options when it comes to picking servers that are full. 

If the second Titanfall has tiny numbers on all 3 platforms, then that is very dire indeed.

What people get from enjoyment is not in the quantity of servers.

DonFerrari said:

No, I have not made any remarks towards the type of gamer that play both games. I have made it so that there is no relevance to say other games have big fanbase on a platform and the game you want is small fanbase there as a justification to buy that game on the small platform.

Making it so other games cannot be mentioned, does not make a good argument. It's actually trifling to just pin down 3 games and then pin a single platform and say "wow that entire platform is bad for said games", when there are clearly other options out there and other factors not being taken into account (like this site will ever want to discuss them).

Small platform?.

Yeah but it will be far less dire on comsoles. That's the point.  titanfall 2 will be very bad playerbase wise on pc. it won't be super healthy or anything on consoles but it will be far better then that at least.  



Chazore on 11 November 2016
Kerotan said:

Yeah but it will be far less dire on comsoles. That's the point.  titanfall 2 will be very bad playerbase wise on pc. it won't be super healthy or anything on consoles but it will be far better then that at least.  

I don't see it being "very bad" on PC. It won't be as big, but it will still be playable. 



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