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Trump is a terrible person, he's not taking any of this seriously, and he stands for racism, xenophobia, and has an active problem with social progression.

So yes, if someone supports him, it's fair to assume they are in support of things like racism, sexism, homophobia, and other forms of hate speech. If someone endorses things like 'intimidating black people at the polls' and 'having one of their 2nd amendment folks taking care of his opponent', then that IS terrorism. That is hate speech.

And if you support any of that, then you are, by definition, a bad person. If you support that, you should consider a vasectomy.



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WolfpackN64 said:

Humanity is by it's very nature a social creature. Capitalism forces people to enter into competition with one another and this is a very important cause of racism. I'm not saying racism will one day magically dissapear off the face of the earth, but we should continue to fight it day in and day out. And of course we promote equality, who could oppose that?

And ehh, what leftist group attacks peoples sexual preferences (exept some idiots in the KKE)?

I meant persecution of sexual preferences ... 

Capitalism does not cause racism, if anything it's that racism that fuels capitalism. It's not the Ashkenazi Jews or the East Asians fault that their born to have better potential ... 

And your promotion of equality is at odds in between having diverse religions and sexual preferences too (quite a few churches out there who can't tolerate LGBT) or other cultural conflicts too ... 

It's pretty clear that you'll never achieve equality with these conditions unless you wiped out and replaced the human race while burning all references to religion ... 

You the rest of your kind who supports that cause will never achieve the fantasyland status that you guys so crave ... 



WolfpackN64 said:

People are not inherently left/right or centre, that changes depending on the situation. And extremes are not necesarily blind. I believe third way is stupid way to think, the right is responsible for most societal problems today, so naturally the left holds the way forward, as it always has.

Explain yourself.



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Final-Fan said:

And by what measure do they have anything resembling 87% of the economic output of the USA?

Also, is there an easy link to showing that the former member states of the USSR do indeed have population about the same as the USA?  Russia itself is less than half.   Never mind

The industrial output of the USSR in 1986 was 87% of the industrial output of the US. But declined sharply after the fall of the SU.

The combined population of the USSR also exceeded that of the United States at the time by over 50 million people. USSR = 292 million in 1990, USA = 240 million in 1990.



StarDoor said:
WolfpackN64 said:

People are not inherently left/right or centre, that changes depending on the situation. And extremes are not necesarily blind. I believe third way is stupid way to think, the right is responsible for most societal problems today, so naturally the left holds the way forward, as it always has.

Explain yourself.

What's there to explain?   Republicans in power often have a problem with gays, have a problem with black folks, have a problem with mexicans, have a problem with women being in power, and just seem to have a problem with any sort of social progression and actively campaign against it. 

Tradition over progression seems to be a staple campaign podium for them to preach from.  I mean, look at it realistically, isn't 'idyllic 1950's americana' what many republicans seem to be striving for?  a time when women, gays, and blacks were all considered second class citizens.  



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Alara317 said:
StarDoor said:

Explain yourself.

What's there to explain?   Republicans in power often have a problem with gays, have a problem with black folks, have a problem with mexicans, have a problem with women being in power, and just seem to have a problem with any sort of social progression and actively campaign against it. 

Tradition over progression seems to be a staple campaign podium for them to preach from.  I mean, look at it realistically, isn't 'idyllic 1950's americana' what many republicans seem to be striving for?  a time when women, gays, and blacks were all considered second class citizens.  

Aside from conflating Republicans with the right, (establishment Republicans fully subscribe to the left's worldview, and haven't done anything to push back leftism for 60 years,) your mistake is in believing that "progression" is inherently good regardless of the circumstances. Would it be a good thing if we legalized pedophilia, an oppressed and marginalized sexual orientation, for example?



StarDoor said:
Alara317 said:

What's there to explain?   Republicans in power often have a problem with gays, have a problem with black folks, have a problem with mexicans, have a problem with women being in power, and just seem to have a problem with any sort of social progression and actively campaign against it. 

Tradition over progression seems to be a staple campaign podium for them to preach from.  I mean, look at it realistically, isn't 'idyllic 1950's americana' what many republicans seem to be striving for?  a time when women, gays, and blacks were all considered second class citizens.  

Aside from conflating Republicans with the right, (establishment Republicans fully subscribe to the left's worldview, and haven't done anything to push back leftism for 60 years,) your mistake is in believing that "progression" is inherently good regardless of the circumstances. Would it be a good thing if we legalized pedophilia, an oppressed and marginalized sexual orientation, for example?

You're not very good at the 'logic' thing, are you? I said nothing about legalizing everything, and especially not pedophilia.  Taking something I've said and inflating it to the poind of absurdity is a logical fallacy, either the stawman argument or, in this case, the 'slippery slope fallacy'.  There are and will always be limits to how far something can go, and I'm not and never will say that all things should be legal, but there is a progression in this world towards a more inclusive world view. 

Black folks are...gasp....real people.  Women are equals to men, gays don't deserve to be hated for their orientation.  These are all insances of progression over the last seventy years, and they all include the basic tenents of individualism in that they treat the individual as an individual and not as a representative of a group.  Every case taken on its own.  Every person their own and not just part of a collective.  

Which is exactly what social progression should be, one issue at a time in the right direction. 

I'm frankly appalled that you're permitted to make such crass claims and push such ludicrously faulty logic to make a point that has no foundation, and you're not being....ahem....lynched for your poor choice of words.  And if this is the kind necessary hyperbole that republicans need to do to discredit their detractors, then your party truly is lost, or should be treated with the respect that any equally petty and immature child would be.  As in, very little.  

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Alara317 said:

You're not very good at the 'logic' thing, are you? I said nothing about legalizing everything, and especially not pedophilia.  Taking something I've said and inflating it to the poind of absurdity is a logical fallacy, either the stawman argument or, in this case, the 'slippery slope fallacy'.  There are and will always be limits to how far something can go, and I'm not and never will say that all things should be legal, but there is a progression in this world towards a more inclusive world view. 

Black folks are...gasp....real people.  Women are equals to men, gays don't deserve to be hated for their orientation.  These are all insances of progression over the last seventy years, and they all include the basic tenents of individualism in that they treat the individual as an individual and not as a representative of a group.  Every case taken on its own.  Every person their own and not just part of a collective.  

Which is exactly what social progression should be, one issue at a time in the right direction. 

I'm frankly appalled that you're permitted to make such crass claims and push such ludicrously faulty logic to make a point that has no foundation, and you're not being....ahem....lynched for your poor choice of words.  And if this is the kind necessary hyperbole that republicans need to do to discredit their detractors, then your party truly is lost, or should be treated with the respect that any equally petty and immature child would be.  As in, very little.  

You complain about me using a strawman argument, but then you do the exact same thing. In fact, I did not use a strawman argument, I was merely pointing out the absurdity in your defense of WolfpackN64 when he says that the left always has the way forward. If "there is a progression in this world toward a more inclusive worldview," when is it decided that our worldview is inclusive enough? Apparently you think it doesn't include pedophiles. Others on the left disagree.

"Black folks are... gasp... real people." Did I say anything to the contrary? Strawman.

"Women are equals to men." Again, did I say the opposite? Although this claim is more dubious, since it's blatantly false in a biological sense. I do think that legal equality is fine, but we already have that, and more.

"Gays don't deserve to be hated for their orientation." Contrary to your assumptions, I agree.

As for your last paragraph, you can "wow, just wow" and sling ad hominems at me all you want, but it doesn't disguise the fact that you haven't thought about the implications of your ideology.



Alara317 said:
Trump is a terrible person, he's not taking any of this seriously, and he stands for racism, xenophobia, and has an active problem with social progression.

So yes, if someone supports him, it's fair to assume they are in support of things like racism, sexism, homophobia, and other forms of hate speech. If someone endorses things like 'intimidating black people at the polls' and 'having one of their 2nd amendment folks taking care of his opponent', then that IS terrorism. That is hate speech.

And if you support any of that, then you are, by definition, a bad person. If you support that, you should consider a vasectomy.

I feel he's less xenophobic and more intensely interested in fixing internal America rather than being a bleeding heart for the rest of the world.

As far as racist is concerned, I disagree. I haven't seen him single out anyone solely based on race where it was not already made the topic at hand. Wanting to have illegal aliens deported isn't racist; it's enforcing the law. Illegal aliens do not include: People with greencards, people born in the US, people who have gone through the proper channels to become an American citizen, people with valid Visas.



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And FFS people should stop singling out Trump and his supporters for being racists since that's as weak minded of an argument as you can get when the VAST MAJORITY of them don't even practice discrimination on a frequent basis! (Racial discrimination is an actual issue, not racism.)

Getting butthurt over the conclusion of the data is just thin skinned ...

Being treated as a pariah just because one believes that the idea of race has actual value when it comes to determining worth is an awful thing when quite a few of these "racists" don't even reciprocate hatred that you'd see from the likes of the KKK or other extremists groups ...